What does it say that virtually all of the Iraq war architects and proponents hate Trump?

calitennis127

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(Please don't merge this into the U.S. politics thread because I want to stay on topic here about foreign policy.)

This is a question for everyone on this board - whether American or non-American: given the anti-war sentiments of so many people in opposition to the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq, why are none of those people giving Trump credit for his noninterventionist stance, which he again emphatically articulated yesterday in a speech in Louisiana?

The main proponents and architects of the Iraq war (such as David Frum, Max Boot, Bill Kristol, Colin Powell, and George Bush himself) have all come out emphatically against Trump. Yet, the people who used to criticize that clique so harshly now have no appreciation for Trump taking a stand against them.
 
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It is wonderful to read people crying about the chaos in Syria right now... as it were not in complete chaos and bloodshed for 8 years. As always, collateral damage...
 

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Because the Democratic Party is largely led by war hawks, at least going back to Bill Clinton. They want perpetual war to fuel the military-industrial complex and American imperialism. The Dems love war, and their mouthpiece mainstream media--CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, etc--love war.

Trump, of course, is just a loose cannon. But Tulsi Gabbard knows what she is talked about - she is pulling back the curtain on the war machine, which is why Hillary went after her.
 
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Because the Democratic Party is largely led by war hawks, at least going back to Bill Clinton. They want perpetual war to fuel the military-industrial complex and American imperialism. The Dems love war, and their mouthpiece mainstream media--CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, etc--love war.

Yes, but you have had Democrats like muh-muh-moxy posing for years as principled noninterventionists, particularly when it comes to the war in Iraq. The latest outrage over Trump's Syria withdrawal and the alliance of Democrats with the leading Iraq war proponents (such as Boot and Frum) during the Trump presidency shows that those Democrats were never really serious about that stance. They simply opposed the Iraq war because a Republican administration started it - just as in 2012, they all agreed with Obama that Romney was a Russophobic nutjob for wanting to confront Russia, only to make Romney's 2012 stance look pacifist 4 years later when they were pissed that Trump won the election. I would also add that Obama bombed 7 different Muslim countries, yet Democrats regard him as a divine figure.

Of course, I don't expect people like Moxie to know about the neocons or their positions. She is too poorly read and ignorant of political matters to know anything about that.