The science behind doping: Sharapova, Russia and Rio 2016

[britbox]

Totally agree that the message send out by the authorities is the wrong one.

"Things have to get worse before they can get better"... Yep.

 

[Denis]

Dont know if it is worth a thread in itself, but there is a huge doping scandal in the UK going on at the moment. the Sunday Times has the story today. 150 athletes implicated, including tennis players.

 

[britbox]

Got a link D?

 

[britbox]

The shit is going to hit the fan with a lot of this stuff.

Spain and Mexico have been ruled non-compliant with WADA drug testing procedures.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/index...-doping-agency-after-failing-to-meet-deadline

... and we are still awaiting the decision on whether the blood bags stored in a Barcelona freezer from the Operacion Puerto/Fuentes case are going to be destroyed (as bizarrely ordered by the Spanish judge) - this has been appealed and years later we are still waiting for a final decision... fricken disgrace.

 

[Denis]

Got a link D?

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...t-l-y-d-o-ped-15-0-sp-or-ts-st-ar-s-dth0sw0mr

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[Mastoor]

I can't wait to see the opening ceremony - "Here are all 4 sportsmen from Andorra, followed by 2,798 from the only other country competing - USA."

 

[Mastoor]

So who are those British tennis stars this new Dr Fuentes (aka Dr Mark Bonar) doped?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-urgent-probe-sports-doping-allegations.html

 

[Moxie]

Spain and Mexico have been ruled non-compliant with WADA drug testing procedures.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/index...-doping-agency-after-failing-to-meet-deadline

... and we are still awaiting the decision on whether the blood bags stored in a Barcelona freezer from the Operacion Puerto/Fuentes case are going to be destroyed (as bizarrely ordered by the Spanish judge) - this has been appealed and years later we are still waiting for a final decision... fricken disgrace.

Spain's issue is procedural, because recent elections have left them in a bit of a political stalemate. And with their economy in shambles, their status with WADA is not the first of their problems. They have asked for more time. Don't make it more scandalous than it need sound. At least the blood samples in the Fuentes case haven't been destroyed, so there is room for appeal. Perhaps the recent publicity will encourage more light to be shed, rather than less.

 

[britbox]

Spain's issue is procedural, because recent elections have left them in a bit of a political stalemate. And with their economy in shambles, their status with WADA is not the first of their problems. They have asked for more time. Don't make it more scandalous than it need sound. At least the blood samples in the Fuentes case haven't been destroyed, so there is room for appeal. Perhaps the recent publicity will encourage more light to be shed, rather than less.

It is an absolute scandal. No too ways about it. The Judge told Fuentes that he didn't need to mention anything outside cycling and ordered the bags to be destroyed... what isn't scandalous??

The political excuse is just that, an excuse. It shouldn't affect the judiciary... and it's a decade since this broke. 10 years... How much time do you need?

 

[Ricardo]

Spain's issue is procedural, because recent elections have left them in a bit of a political stalemate. And with their economy in shambles, their status with WADA is not the first of their problems. They have asked for more time. Don't make it more scandalous than it need sound. At least the blood samples in the Fuentes case haven't been destroyed, so there is room for appeal. Perhaps the recent publicity will encourage more light to be shed, rather than less.

so you are saying..... let's not discuss it, let's not go there, because talking about it is making it 'scandalous'!! so everyone just shut up, until there is solid concrete evidence or verdict, but really? something is gonna get buried, if you got a tiny bit of common sense, as if we haven't seen this sort of thing before.

is that how you go about things in real life?

 

[mrzz]

Easy, Ricardo, I guess Moxie just don't want us to blame people in advance.

I see her point (if I interpreted her correctly, she will correct me, anyway).

I, for one, do not believe top tennis players will have any connection to this. On the other hand, don't ask me about the Spanish football team....

 

[Federberg]

It's got to be important athletes, whether it's footballers or tennis players. If it was Barcelona players I wouldn't be surprised if the government was fairly relaxed about releasing the information. It's not like they're the establishment team. I'm amazed it's taking so long, surely they have to understand that it taints the whole of Spain.

 

[Mastoor]

so you are saying..... let's not discuss it, let's not go there, because talking about it is making it 'scandalous'!! so everyone just shut up, until there is solid concrete evidence or verdict, but really? something is gonna get buried, if you got a tiny bit of common sense, as if we haven't seen this sort of thing before.

is that how you go about things in real life?

It is actually governments who want to keep this rubbish under the carpet. See that even Fuentes and Bonar would like to say who they doped, they are made to keep quiet. We can only guess.