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Like it or not, Elo is becoming more prominent in tennis discourse - not unlike how WAR took over baseball stats, though I'm guessing it will always be to a lesser degree, given that stats are more prominent in baseball fandom.
Anyhow, I thought it might be worthwhile to start an Elo Rankings thread, as its advocates see it as a more accurate depiction of a player's performance level than ATP ranking. I would only suggest that Elo doesn't quite represent peak level, but more "peak sustained level." It likes someone like David Ferrer more than it does Stan Wawrinka, because Ferrer was generally consistently better over a period of several months than Stan was, even when in Stanimal mode. It also tends to diminish players with surface weaknesses, like Sampras and Becker.
Note also that there are several versions. Ultimate Tennis Statistics only updates once per year, so I'll use Tennis Abstract, which is run by the "tennis stat guru," Jeff Sackmann. Generally speaking, TA's version is lower than UTS by 150-200ish points.
Anyhow, here's the pre-Doha Elo Ratings, according to Tennis Abstract (2/17/25):
Anyhow, I thought it might be worthwhile to start an Elo Rankings thread, as its advocates see it as a more accurate depiction of a player's performance level than ATP ranking. I would only suggest that Elo doesn't quite represent peak level, but more "peak sustained level." It likes someone like David Ferrer more than it does Stan Wawrinka, because Ferrer was generally consistently better over a period of several months than Stan was, even when in Stanimal mode. It also tends to diminish players with surface weaknesses, like Sampras and Becker.
Note also that there are several versions. Ultimate Tennis Statistics only updates once per year, so I'll use Tennis Abstract, which is run by the "tennis stat guru," Jeff Sackmann. Generally speaking, TA's version is lower than UTS by 150-200ish points.
Anyhow, here's the pre-Doha Elo Ratings, according to Tennis Abstract (2/17/25):
- Jannik Sinner 2325
- Novak Djokovic 2197
- Carlos Alcaraz 2169
- Alexander Zverev 2089
- Grigor Dimitrov 2023
- Jack Draper 2021
- Daniil Medvedev 2006
- Taylor Fritz 2004
- Alex de Minaur 1974
- Tommy Paul 1972
- Rod Laver 2571
- Bjorn Borg 2473
- Novak Djokovic 2470
- John McEnroe 2442
- Ivan Lendl 2402
- Roger Federer 2383
- Rafael Nadal 2370
- Jimmy Connors 2364
- Andy Murray 2347
- Jannik Sinner 2325
- Boris Becker 2320
- Pete Sampras 2319
- Mats Wilander 2309
- Guillermo Vilas 2298
- Andre Agassi 2282
- Ilie Nastase 2256
- Jim Courier 2256
- Stan Smith 2248
- Stefan Edberg 2239
- Carlos Alcaraz 2239
- Juan Martin del Potro 2233
- David Ferrer 2219
- Kei Nishikori 2210
- John Newcombe 2209
- Arthur Ashe 2206
- Michael Stich 2203
- Vitas Gerulaitis 2201
- Lleyton Hewitt 2192
- Daniil Medvedev 2192
- Tom Okker 2190
- Michael Chang 2186
- Goran Ivanisevic 2185
- Andy Roddick 2181
