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You know that I never encouraged laziness of your brains and instead I sometimes offered challenge in ways you might have found overwelming.
Here I have something that will change the angle of view for some of you.

When they noticed that there are more and more tennis players from what is in US called Eastern Europe, they asked Novak to explain that and he said, I paraphrase, that those countries are not as rich as Western countries so they try harder.

To say that I disagree is understatement.

You may remember several years ago that Canadian DC team consisted of Nestor, Raonic, Pospisil, Polanski & Dancevic. How I count that is two and a half Serbs (Dancevic's father is of Serbian origin), a Chech and a Polish, so they were all Slavs. I even thought what kind of country Canada is when only immigrants' children play tennis.

I remember that i wonder why US doesn't do similar and encourage talented children of Slavic origin among their residents to play tennis.
Neither they made effort to naturalise many players ever sinse Navratilova, Lendl & Seles. At least they could have tried with Sharapova & Azarenka who live there.
I looked at the list of old US slam winners, but it seems only Frank Parker was a Slav (Polish) among them.

I know that British tried with couple but with not much luck. Alex Bogdanovic showed nothing much, while Baltaca died young and Bedene kept changing his passports annually. They even tried to couple Novak with Murray but to no avail.

I know that Australian tennis utilised players of Slavic origin well, though Stossur is the only slam winner among them.

It is also interesting that the only New Zealand singles players worth noting in last 40+ years beside Chris Lewis are Onny Parun (Croat) & Marina Erakovic (Serb) even though there are hardly any Yugoslavs in NZ.
They currently have 3 top 100 doubles players from which Sitak is a Russian and Venus probably Croat.

So how much are players of Slavic origin actually present in tennis in recent years? We can't say they are dominating tennis, but they are present a lot.

If we consider only slam winners and I know that many among tennis fans do, on men's side we have Novak with 16 slams, Cilic with 1 and Wawrinka who is, I read, of Polish origin on his father's side, won 3 slams.

On female side, in last 10 years there were Azarenka, Sharapova & Kvitova with 2 slams each, Kerber 3, Stossur, Wozniacka, Ostapenko and Kenin one each. I would also add Halep and Andrescu who are of Romanian origin,
because Romanians have DNA almost identical to South Slavs. And finally, I'd like to point out that Schiavone is one of many archaic Italian words for both Serbs and Slavs.

So that is exactly half in last 10 years on men's side and over 30% on women's side.

If we look at curent top 100, the situation is like this: Djokovic, Medvedev, Tsitsipas & Zverev in top 10. Then Rublev, Kachanov, Shapovalov, Wawrinka, Dimitrov, Lajovic, Hurkacz, Raonic, Krajinovic, Coric, Cilic, Opelka, Kecmanovic, Bublik, Bedene, Vesely, Gerasimov, Djere, Fucsovics, Novak, Kukuskin, Pospisil, Martin, Davidovic Fokina. There are sevral other top 100 players that may also have Slavic origin that I ommited. I listed 28 top 100 players with Slavic origin.

On WTA side, among top 100, Slavic origin have: In top 10, Halep, Pliskova, Kenin, Svitolina, Andreescu & Benci,followed by Sabalenka, Kvitova, Martic, Rybkina, Vondrousova, Kerber, Vekic, Muchova, Alexandrova, Anisimova, Pavlyuchenkova, Strycova, Kuznetsova, Putintseva, Kudermetova, Ostapenko, Mladenovic, Sevastova, Hercog, Bouzkova, Swiatek, Siniakova, Tomljanovic, Azarenka, Pera, Blinkova, Kasatkina, Pliskova, Zidansek, Cirstea, Begu, Kuzmova, Potapova, Stojanovic, Petkovic, Kovinic, Bogdan, Stossur, Kozlova. That's 45 top 100, six top 10. There are several top 100 that may likely have Slavic origin that I didn't list.

That is 28% top 100 on men's side and 45% of top 100 on women's side are with Slavic heritage, 40% of top 10 on men's side and 60% on women's side.

So we can say it is 28% or more Slavs present weather we consider singles slam winners in last 10 years or top 10 or top 100 players on either side.

You wouldn't expect that high percentage of their presence considering their number and lack of tennis tradition in Slavic countries (former Czechoslovakia being exception) among other things.

There is obvious lack of interest for tennis in many of these countries. Take world #1's country where there are only around 1000 registered tennis players and neighboring Croatia with around 200 registered tennis players. In letters, there are only around twelve hundred registered tennis players in Serbia and Croatia combined. They have 6 top 50 players combined. USA with around 300,000 registered players, with all their wealth, long tradition and many tournaments has 4 top 50 players, same as Serbia, or if you like twice as many as Croatia with only 200 tennis playing persons.

I have some more things to add to this, but I guess there is so much information for you to process in this post already.
 
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Let me answer shortly majstore, and only to a few of your points.

1. You wonder what country Canada is when only children of immigrants play tennis? But nearly all of the Canadians were immigrants. What you mean are the Anglo-Saxons and french?
2. Same for US.
3. You can transfer the Slavic success also to other sports. Let us exclude Russia, the other countries have small populations. Despite that they are relatively very successful in sports. Why is that so?;)

For me that WC SF win of my Croatia against the “football-homeland” England, is a special example.
 

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You know that I never encouraged laziness of your brains and instead I sometimes offered challenge in ways you might have found overwelming.
Here I have something that will change the angle of view for some of you.

When they noticed that there are more and more tennis players from what is in US called Eastern Europe, they asked Novak to explain that and he said, I paraphrase, that those countries are not as rich as Western countries so they try harder.

To say that I disagree is understatement.

You may remember several years ago that Canadian DC team consisted of Nestor, Raonic, Pospisil, Polanski & Dancevic. How I count that is two and a half Serbs (Dancevic's father is of Serbian origin), a Chech and a Polish, so they were all Slavs. I even thought what kind of country Canada is when only immigrants' children play tennis.

I remember that i wonder why US doesn't do similar and encourage talented children of Slavic origin among their residents to play tennis.
Neither they made effort to naturalise many players ever sinse Navratilova, Lendl & Seles. At least they could have tried with Sharapova & Azarenka who live there.
I looked at the list of old US slam winners, but it seems only Frank Parker was a Slav (Polish) among them.

I know that British tried with couple but with not much luck. Alex Bogdanovic showed nothing much, while Baltaca died young and Bedene kept changing his passports annually. They even tried to couple Novak with Murray but to no avail.

I know that Australian tennis utilised players of Slavic origin well, though Stossur is the only slam winner among them.

It is also interesting that the only New Zealand singles players worth noting in last 40+ years beside Chris Lewis are Onny Parun (Croat) & Marina Erakovic (Serb) even though there are hardly any Yugoslavs in NZ.
They currently have 3 top 100 doubles players from which Sitak is a Russian and Venus probably Croat.

So how much are players of Slavic origin actually present in tennis in recent years? We can't say they are dominating tennis, but they are present a lot.

If we consider only slam winners and I know that many among tennis fans do, on men's side we have Novak with 16 slams, Cilic with 1 and Wawrinka who is, I read, of Polish origin on his father's side, won 3 slams.

On female side, in last 10 years there were Azarenka, Sharapova & Kvitova with 2 slams each, Kerber 3, Stossur, Wozniacka, Ostapenko and Kenin one each. I would also add Halep and Andrescu who are of Romanian origin,
because Romanians have DNA almost identical to South Slavs. And finally, I'd like to point out that Schiavone is one of many archaic Italian words for both Serbs and Slavs.

So that is exactly half in last 10 years on men's side and over 30% on women's side.

If we look at curent top 100, the situation is like this: Djokovic, Medvedev, Tsitsipas & Zverev in top 10. Then Rublev, Kachanov, Shapovalov, Wawrinka, Dimitrov, Lajovic, Hurkacz, Raonic, Krajinovic, Coric, Cilic, Opelka, Kecmanovic, Bublik, Bedene, Vesely, Gerasimov, Djere, Fucsovics, Novak, Kukuskin, Pospisil, Martin, Davidovic Fokina. There are sevral other top 100 players that may also have Slavic origin that I ommited. I listed 28 top 100 players with Slavic origin.

On WTA side, among top 100, Slavic origin have: In top 10, Halep, Pliskova, Kenin, Svitolina, Andreescu & Benci,followed by Sabalenka, Kvitova, Martic, Rybkina, Vondrousova, Kerber, Vekic, Muchova, Alexandrova, Anisimova, Pavlyuchenkova, Strycova, Kuznetsova, Putintseva, Kudermetova, Ostapenko, Mladenovic, Sevastova, Hercog, Bouzkova, Swiatek, Siniakova, Tomljanovic, Azarenka, Pera, Blinkova, Kasatkina, Pliskova, Zidansek, Cirstea, Begu, Kuzmova, Potapova, Stojanovic, Petkovic, Kovinic, Bogdan, Stossur, Kozlova. That's 45 top 100, six top 10. There are several top 100 that may likely have Slavic origin that I didn't list.

That is 28% top 100 on men's side and 45% of top 100 on women's side are with Slavic heritage, 40% of top 10 on men's side and 60% on women's side.

So we can say it is 28% or more Slavs present weather we consider singles slam winners in last 10 years or top 10 or top 100 players on either side.

You wouldn't expect that high percentage of their presence considering their number and lack of tennis tradition in Slavic countries (former Czechoslovakia being exception) among other things.

There is obvious lack of interest for tennis in many of these countries. Take world #1's country where there are only around 1000 registered tennis players and neighboring Croatia with around 200 registered tennis players. In letters, there are only around twelve hundred registered tennis players in Serbia and Croatia combined. They have 6 top 50 players combined. USA with around 300,000 registered players, with all their wealth, long tradition and many tournaments has 4 top 50 players, same as Serbia, or if you like twice as many as Croatia with only 200 tennis playing persons.

I have some more things to add to this, but I guess there is so much information for you to process in this post already.
Maybe there is some truth in there, but it does seem like the six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
 

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Have you all noticed that the letters in DNA are all included in NADAL? :clap: What a great human! :clap:
 
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