Should the Australian Open change its scheduling for Men's Semi-Finals?

Do you like the current scheduling for the men's SFs at the AO?

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Moxie

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Complaining about this on another thread, I figured maybe it was time to discuss properly, because we usually discuss it tangentially, every AO. In a unique scheduling choice, the Australian Open puts both women's semi-finals on the last Thursday, along with one of the men's semis. Then on the Friday, only the 2nd men's semi-final. The women's finalists both have 2 days of rest. As to the men, one finalist has about 2 1/2 days of rest, the other a day less. All the other majors give the men even days of rest, unless, of course if weather holds them over. Thoughts?
 

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I agree that the schedule for the Men's SF matches is mind-boggling. I wonder on why they don't just follow the other majors of having both Men semifinals matches held on the Friday before the finals. What's so hard about that decision? If they are worried about time, then they could just start the first SF match at 2 pm local time and the second match at 7 pm local time.
 

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They should cancel the Australian open altogether as 90% of the planet is sleeping while it’s being played. Also there is already another superior and more legendary hardcourt slam, the US Open. Having a 2nd hardcourt slam is pointless, it should be one slam for each surface: RG, W and USO.
 

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They should cancel the Australian open altogether as 90% of the planet is sleeping while it’s being played. Also there is already another superior and more legendary hardcourt slam, the US Open. Having a 2nd hardcourt slam is pointless, it should be one slam for each surface: RG, W and USO.

Well the AO is the only GS that I can watch on my time line,in the day,I live in Australia,when the tour leaves Australia I have to wake up around midnight to watch the rest of the tour,I am a walking zombie when the tour finishes in November.
 

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Well the AO is the only GS that I can watch on my time line,in the day,I live in Australia,when the tour leaves Australia I have to wake up around midnight to watch the rest of the tour,I am a walking zombie when the tour finishes in November.
Don't even entertain this. The Austalian Open is a time-honor tradition. Australian players number among the greatest players of all time. (Laver? Court?)
 

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Don't even entertain this. The Austalian Open is a time-honor tradition. Australian players number among the greatest players of all time. (Laver? Court?)

You can’t even spell it right so how can it be up there with the other slams? :facepalm: And what does it have to do with Australian people/players? :facepalm:

I have to say Moxie, I would expect a post like this from someone like Bonaca but not from you. I am very disappointed. :negative:
 
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You can’t even spell it right so how can it be up there with the other slams? :facepalm: And what does it have to do with Australian people/players? :facepalm:

I have to say Moxie, I would expect a post like this from someone like Bonaca but not from you. I am very disappointed. :negative:
A slip of the finger and a post's entire validation is negated? Then we'd have to delete 75% of the posts on here. Those who can't distinguish between "lose" and "loose." Those who misspell a player's name? (Especially all of those with random "h's" or the "cz/zc," that we can't figure how to place.) Does a misspelling invalidate the entire Australian Open? You have been pushing hard, of late, for diminishing the AO. Your objective seems fairly naked and, frankly, pathetic. Nadal has not done well there, including having had a lot of bad injury luck, and as for Djokovic, it's been his backyard. (And Roger has done very well there, too.) While it didn't get played by everyone in the past, as it was too far away, it has been played by everyone in the past 30+ years. Australian tennis has a great history, going all the way back. Some of the greatest players/record-holders in our sport are Aussies. I really don't see how you defend making lesser of the AO, in this era. Would you prefer we only had 3 Majors? Or if we stay with four, what would be your alternate?
 

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A slip of the finger and a post's entire validation is negated? Then we'd have to delete 75% of the posts on here. Those who can't distinguish between "lose" and "loose." Those who misspell a player's name? (Especially all of those with random "h's" or the "cz/zc," that we can't figure how to place.) Does a misspelling invalidate the entire Australian Open? You have been pushing hard, of late, for diminishing the AO. Your objective seems fairly naked and, frankly, pathetic. Nadal has not done well there, including having had a lot of bad injury luck, and as for Djokovic, it's been his backyard. (And Roger has done very well there, too.) While it didn't get played by everyone in the past, as it was too far away, it has been played by everyone in the past 30+ years. Australian tennis has a great history, going all the way back. Some of the greatest players/record-holders in our sport are Aussies. I really don't see how you defend making lesser of the AO, in this era. Would you prefer we only had 3 Majors? Or if we stay with four, what would be your alternate?
You gave me once an advise, not to waste time with Trollords like this one, don’t make my mistakes.
 

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You can’t even spell it right so how can it be up there with the other slams? :facepalm: And what does it have to do with Australian people/players? :facepalm:

I have to say Moxie, I would expect a post like this from someone like Bonaca but not from you. I am very disappointed. :negative:
And you surely love Nadal also for his perfect English!
Go shave your legs Missy
 

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No. US open used to do something like this too

I distinctly remember the women being split in '79! BJK had to fight severe wind, a stiff neck, & Chris Evert that day, dropping the match 1 & 0 Thursday! The other SF with Navratilova and Austin was on Friday! Tracy won in straight sets over both Evert and Navratilova to win her 1st USO; the 2nd in '81 over Martina! :facepalm:
 
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Yes Tracy Austin, a forgotten tragic story of a most impressive prodigy.....even as teenager she regularly beat the best (Evert/Navratilova) in the biggest matches, only to be injured out in her 4th year on the tour and then had near death accident. No question had the ability to contend for the female goat, just wasn’t to be.
 

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OK, this thread has gone all over the place, but it is about the AO, so I'm going to ask this question: How did the AO ever get to become a Major, anyway, since so many players didn't travel to Oz for it, a great deal of the time? I'm not denigrating it, and we know the players love it. But I was watching the final of last year's RG. They put up the graphic of Martina's 9 Wimbledons and Court's 11 AO's, as it was looking like Nadal was about to win his 12th RG, which he did. And they cited the asterisk on Court's record, because basically only Aussie's played it then. So how DID the Australian Open become one of the 4 most important tournaments in tennis. Just curious about the history of that.
 

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OK, this thread has gone all over the place, but it is about the AO, so I'm going to ask this question: How did the AO ever get to become a Major, anyway, since so many players didn't travel to Oz for it, a great deal of the time? I'm not denigrating it, and we know the players love it. But I was watching the final of last year's RG. They put up the graphic of Martina's 9 Wimbledons and Court's 11 AO's, as it was looking like Nadal was about to win his 12th RG, which he did. And they cited the asterisk on Court's record, because basically only Aussie's played it then. So how DID the Australian Open become one of the 4 most important tournaments in tennis. Just curious about the history of that.

WIKI has a pretty good summary of it.

and this site
excerpt:
"The tournament was only designated as a major tennis event in 1924, the decision came after a 1923 meeting by the International Lawn Tennis Federation; "

Here is what intrigues me, whose palms were greased at the time to make that decision
by the ITLF ??

It's insane when you think about how physically remote it was and how so many top players (men and women) through the decades ignored it.
ETA: Ok well I just looked up another reason, until 1923, only 3 countries had ever won the Davis Cup , namely US, UK and Austraila. In fact Australia only trailed the US in Davis Cup wins up to 1923.


Now everyone touts about how Don Budge is an all time great because he was the first player to win a calender year Grand Slam in 1938. Well the reality is he was the rare top ranked player to play in all four Majors, before him greats like Bill Tilden or Lacoste didn't bother to go down even when they were the top tennis player in the world.

On the women's side , does anybody doubt that Helen Wills Moody would have won a boatload of AO's in the 30's if she bothered to go, ditto Suzanne Lenglen in the 20's ? These women didn't lose sets, much less matches for years... in 1953 Mo Conollay was the first top non Aussie womens champhion who had made it her mission to win the Grand Slam ie to enter and win the Austraiian, but what the hey the next year she didn't even bother to go back to defend it.

What helped the AO (I know it truly didn't become that until 1969) was that through the late 40's -70's many of the top players (Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall, John Newcombe, Margaret Court, Evonne Goolagong, Roy Emerson, etc) were Aussies, so in a sense they propped the tournament because it was virtually mandatory for them. Aussie dominance of Davis Cup during this time is legendary.

In my lifetime, by the mid to late 70's the AO was a joke, as most non Aussies avoided the grass tourney. What does it tell you that Borg made 6 consecutive Wimbledon finals and never played the AO during that time? It was usually played during the winter holidays and one year it was even played twice. I'd say as a genuine Major it wasn't until around the Sampras era that all the men players felt it almost mandatory to play it as an equal Major to the other 3, especially with the Melbourne new facilites in 1988.

The irony is that now it's the most attended of the all the Majors and it's status is not in dispute at all.
 
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