Rolex Shanghai Masters 2018, China

[herios]

Shanghai draw is out.
Projected QF:
Federer - Nishi
Delpo - Thiem
Zverev - Cilic
Novak - Anderson

 

[monfed]

oh look another joke draw for faker and nightmare draw for Fed

 

[Moxie]

I don't think that's fully true. I worked my way through the draw challenge, and Novak has some young guys who are trending atm. Tsitsipas was a finalist there last year.

 

[monfed]

I don't think that's fully true. I worked my way through the draw challenge, and Novak has some young guys who are trending atm. Tsitsipas was a finalist there last year.

oh cmon sitsipas is done for the season, he got nothing left

 

[Moxie]

oh cmon sitsipas is done for the season, he got nothing left

Tsitsipas is 20. If he's got nothing left then he needs to beef up his training. However, delPotro, who is on Roger's side, is playing in a final tomorrow, and may not have much left. Roger's got Thiem in there, who looked pretty good when he won St. Petersburg recently, but I don't know how much of a threat he is to Fed. Maybe Nishikori? Given that he's playing well and will have support in Asia.

 

[DarthFed]

I still wish Roger had pulled the plug on the year and geared up for 2019. If he continues to suck that does not bode well for next year. And if he plays well (wins at least 2 tournaments) then that shortens his rest quite a bit. After that the only rooting interest I have is for Djokovic to finish #1. Get that lovely fisherman out of there.

 

[atttomole]

How fast is the Shanghai surface?

 

[DarthFed]

How fast is the Shanghai surface?

Shanghai and Basel are very fast and London is slow. So good tennis means he wins Shanghai and Basel at the very least. I don't give him much of a chance at London vs a decent Djoker.

 

[Moxie]

Shanghai and Basel are very fast and London is slow. So good tennis means he wins Shanghai and Basel at the very least. I don't give him much of a chance at London vs a decent Djoker.

How can Shanghai and Basel be that fast if Nadal has made the finals of both...Shanghai twice? I thought fast surfaces don't suit him. Anyway, I may modify my comment about Roger's draw...he's got Medevev in his first match, if Daniil makes it through, and the Russian is on a hot streak.

 

[DarthFed]

How can Shanghai and Basel be that fast if Nadal has made the finals of both...Shanghai twice? I thought fast surfaces don't suit him. Anyway, I may modify my comment about Roger's draw...he's got Medevev in his first match, if Daniil makes it through, and the Russian is on a hot streak.

And making the final means what exactly?

If Roger loses to a lightweight like master of coin it is further confirmation that it is time to call it a season. Come back for 2019 and be ready for #21, his career isn't safe yet.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

How fast is the Shanghai surface?

Fastest ATP level tournament on tour

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I still wish Roger had pulled the plug on the year and geared up for 2019. If he continues to suck that does not bode well for next year. And if he plays well (wins at least 2 tournaments) then that shortens his rest quite a bit. .

Come on. He has had a lot of rest. Would not hurt to play in Shanghai, Basel and WTF.

 

[isabelle]

Tsitsi beat la Monf

 

[Carol]

Can you believe what Monfils has done at that point? what he was thinking?

 

[Moxie]

Coric beat Stan and Raonic is out, too.

 

[monfed]

lol@ mugfils tanking a point. What an idiot!

 

[Carol]

Wawrinka, Monfils, Kyrgios and Raonic out, we'll see what happens next......B-)

 

[DarthFed]

Tsitsipas is 20. If he's got nothing left then he needs to beef up his training. However, delPotro, who is on Roger's side, is playing in a final tomorrow, and may not have much left. Roger's got Thiem in there, who looked pretty good when he won St. Petersburg recently, but I don't know how much of a threat he is to Fed. Maybe Nishikori? Given that he's playing well and will have support in Asia.

You need a history lesson if you think Kei will get support in China. #Nanking

 

[Moxie]

You need a history lesson if you think Kei will get support in China. #Nanking

I take that point, but it's just tennis, and my understanding is that the Asian players enjoy a lot of support across the pan-Asian community. It's not like there are loads of Asian stars in tennis, but I could be wrong about that. However, I didn't find the Chinese as prejudiced against the Japanese as the reverse, in my own experience.

 

[DarthFed]

I take that point, but it's just tennis, and my understanding is that the Asian players enjoy a lot of support across the pan-Asian community. It's not like there are loads of Asian stars in tennis, but I could be wrong about that. However, I didn't find the Chinese as prejudiced against the Japanese as the reverse, in my own experience.

I'd say it's the opposite and why wouldn't it be? There have been some notable violent anti-Japanese rallies in China over the past 10-15 years. One of my best friends lives there and he's talked about how bad some of them are.

Anyways I wouldn't hold my breath on Kei getting support vs Roger of all players. And I was being a little snarky after your bizarre comments about a few finals Nadal lost on fast surfaces