Radovan Karadžić sentenced to 40 years

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Radovan Karadžić sentenced to 40 years for genocide at Srebrenica

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...minally-responsible-for-genocide-at-srebenica

Hard to comprehend some of these sentences in a warzone.


Britbox, the narrative about Kosovo, Serbia, etc. was just another chapter in the war waged by the idiotic leaders of the US and the EU against Christian cultures and societies. That is all it amounts to. The Hague Court is an utter disgrace, the epitome of a kangaroo court if ever there was one. Its only purpose from the start has been to demonize Serbs in a completely biased fashion. This sentencing of Karadzic is the only latest chapter to it.

The leftist writer Diana Johnstone has written some brilliant pieces on the dishonesty surrounding the so-called genocide at Srebrenica. Also, I would highly recommend this piece to anyone who is looking to understand the Balkans wars properly instead of through the DC-EU propaganda filter.

"Contrary to NATO claims of 100,000 or more Albanians purportedly massacred by the Serbs, postwar investigators found fewer than 5,000 deaths – 1,500 of which happened after NATO occupied the province and the Albanian pogroms began."

http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2...il-little-war-almost-all-us-candidates-liked/
 
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Britbox, the narrative about Kosovo, Serbia, etc. was just another chapter in the war waged by the idiotic leaders of the US and the EU against Christian cultures and societies. That is all it amounts to. The Hague Court is an utter disgrace, the epitome of a kangaroo court if ever there was one. Its only purpose from the start has been to demonize Serbs in a completely biased fashion. This sentencing of Karadzic is the only latest chapter to it.

The leftist writer Diana Johnstone has written some brilliant pieces on the dishonesty surrounding the so-called genocide at Srebrenica. Also, I would highly recommend this piece to anyone who is looking to understand the Balkans wars properly instead of through the DC-EU propaganda filter.

"Contrary to NATO claims of 100,000 or more Albanians purportedly massacred by the Serbs, postwar investigators found fewer than 5,000 deaths – 1,500 of which happened after NATO occupied the province and the Albanian pogroms began."

http://original.antiwar.com/malic/2...il-little-war-almost-all-us-candidates-liked/

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“Presumed innocent until proven Serb”
–Balkans forum commenter

“The falseness of the entire situation here defies description.”
– Radovan Karadzic, Opening Defense Statement

Well, at least this Hague-held Serb didn’t turn up dead like six or so others.

Very little in or about the Balkans happens by accident. In 2008 Radovan Karadzic was arrested at a time that the U.S. and EU were desperately ramming through statehood for a criminal enclave named Kosovo. Conveniently, the arrest of Karadzic reinforced the image of Serb as war criminal just as they were looking to have fewer questions about officialdom’s obsession with this tiny place.

And it is again no accident that the date of the Karadzic verdict eight years later was “set for March 24th,” the infamous date in 1999 of America’s greatest international crime and shame, when a purportedly anti-war president took us to war against a Christian, European population that had been America’s historical ally. All for doing battle against domestic terror and the ambitions of Greater Islam which, having little experience with it at the time, Washington dubbed “genocide” and “ethnic cleansing.” As did Berlin, Paris and Brussels.

Payback is a bitch. Particularly when it’s self-orchestrated, as Europe and America are today reaping the karma and consequence of what they’ve sown, making Serbs of us all. As publisher Milo Yelesiyevich, who has translated Karadzic’s Opening Defense Statement, put it in a letter to me:

I hope the Europeans give Dr. K a second look, because they’re in for it now. In a few short decades, they’ve been cast in the role of “Serbs” in their own countries, yet they still refuse to acknowledge their complicity in their own downfall, which stems from having attacked Serbs and Serbia throughout the 1990s [on behalf of what would become the next nexus of jihad — Bosnia and Kosovo].

From the back cover of the hard-copy version of the opening statement, by Kirkus Reviews:

Karadžić’s defense itself is remarkable, by turns eloquent, historically provocative…. Karadžić claimed Serbs had long been champions of peace and compromise, but they met an intransigent Muslim faction that all but insisted on either war or submission. Moreover, he contended that the “forcible removal of Bosnian Muslims and Croats was never our plan.” In many ways, the full account of Karadžić’s defense does add valuable perspective, especially in pointing out that Muslim insurgents were themselves guilty of extraordinary war crimes and that they were often stubbornly unreasonable partners in political dialogue…. This translation remains an important contribution to the understanding of a historically significant war.

No doubt one U.S. presidential candidate in particular will seek to capitalize on the carefully timed verdict to burnish her credentials, for having urged her husband to wage that “successful” 1999 war and for the overall ’90s Balkans legacy that today culminates in this “important” conviction of yet another Serbian official.

A salient point from the book’s web page:

The U.S. and NATO used the Bosnian War as a laboratory to test weapons as well as new methods of perception management, which they deployed in a long series of wars. Americans who no longer believe the U.S. government’s selective presentation of its foreign policy will find much to consider in Dr. Karadžić’s Opening Defense Statement.

With that, a few relevant snippets. First, an October 2013 email from the American who first coined the term “ethnic cleansing” in the context of Bosnia while serving as a foreign service officer, George Kenney. (Kenney subsequently subscribed to a more balanced version of the war than the cartoon that Americans were fed.):

I am still mystified as to why, but last Friday I was invited to a lunch at a fancy restaurant on K Street for Zeljka Cvijanovic, the Bosnian Serb Prime Minister. She was in town for a couple days, opening an office here. About a dozen people attended, including several former government types. After the meal, over coffee, about half a dozen of us lingered, swapping stories.

One guy recalled how he’d been up to Pale with a BBC reporter and a NYT reporter to see Karadzic. Sometime later in the war but before 1995…On a white board he noticed a list titled “war aims,” in Cyrillic, of course. Reading the list he realized that winning the war was not enumerated. In a lull in the reporters’ conversation he mentioned this, in Serbian, to Karadzic. The latter switched to English (no secrets there?!) to explain that the Serbs did not want to win the war. The guy at lunch telling the story thought this demonstrated political ineptitude but another lunch guest, a former senior CIA analyst, offered what I thought was a very insightful comment: Karadzic had continued to think of his political future in terms of Bosnia. Not of a merger with Serbia. Not of a separate statelet. But Bosnia.

And I suppose, thinking some more about it, that Karadzic could not have imagined an outcome in which the Bosnian Muslims dominated the politics of non-Muslims in Bosnia. On that point he was closer to the action and had, arguably, a reasonably realistic idea of what was politically possible. For most westerners at the time, however, the prospect of Bosnian Muslim political domination did not seem at all problematic — the Muslims were really Europeans, after all, except with mildly idiosyncratic religious beliefs. Their potential political dominance, in and of itself, was unimportant. In hindsight, and with the heuristic benefit of all the current turmoil in the Middle East, it’s much more clear how wrong that assumption was.

Next, a revelation at the Karadzic trial that was guaranteed to not make the wires:

Karadzic’s Witness Claims Bosnian Army Attacked its Own People (Balkan Insight, Nov. 12, 2009)

At the trial of Radovan Karadzic, an ex UN military observer claims that in 1992 the Sarajevo authorities “killed their own people for the sake of media“ in order to trigger international military intervention against Serbs.

…Colonel Richard Gray from New Zealand, an ex UN military observer, claimed that attacks on its own civilians was a part of a “full scale strategy” by the predominantly Bosniak government and its army.

Gray stated that the Bosnian army fired mortars from locations near civilian buildings and the UN protection forces, UNPROFOR, headquarters in order to provoke Bosnian Serb forces to open fire.

The witness said that the predominantly Bosniak forces “had a custom” of shelling the area in front of the Bosnian Presidency during visits by international diplomats and peace mediators.

“A grenade would usually explode while a foreign official spoke to Alija Izetbegovic in the Presidency building,” Gray said.

Karadzic, former President of Republika Srpska and the supreme commander of its army, is charged with terrorizing civilians in Sarajevo by artillery and sniper attacks…Gray said that the Bosnian army was most probably responsible for a mortar attack which killed a girl and wounded several teenagers as UNPROFOR soldiers were handing out candies in front their headquarters on July 13, 1992.

The witness added that the UNPROFOR Command was targeted by snipers from the surrounding buildings. […]

Some more details, from the Institute of War and Peace Reporting (IWPR, Nov. 12, 2009):

…[Gray] said that when British for secretary Douglas Hurd visited the city on July 17, 1992, “the Presidency building was shot at [with mortar fire], and that resulted in the deaths of some ten [people]”…Gray mentioned another incident in July 1992, in which he said “a group of teenagers were being shot at by the Bosnian army while some UN peacekeepers were trying to give them candy”.

He also claimed that [the] Bosnian army kept firing at Bosnian Serb Army, VRS, positions from the vicinity of civilian buildings and UN headquarters, in order “to cause the [Serb army] to fire back at these objects”…Gray added that the Bosnian army even fired directly on a group of UN observers stationed in Sarajevo.
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Another witness appearing on behalf of Karadzic this week was Savo Simic, the former head of artillery for the 1st Sarajevo Motorised Brigade of the VRS…[Karadzic] read out a summary of Simic’s written statement. It said that “…There was never any kind of intention to terrorise the civilian population” …In court, Simic said there was “a simple reason” why it was practically impossible for the VRS to shoot at civilians: “You see, we were under permanent UN observation, and our positions were being constantly monitored by UN peacekeepers.” […]

Related: Four witnesses dispute alleged Serb bombing of Sarajevo market (AKI, Oct. 31, 2012)

…British ballistic expert Derek Alsop, testifying in Karadzic’s defence, told the court on Wednesday there was “very little evidence” to determine where the grenade which killed 66 people and wounded 140 in February 1994 was fired from.
…
Earlier on Wednesday and Tuesday three former Canadian officers, who served with the UN peacekeepers (Unprofor) in Bosnia at the time, backed Alsop’s view that it was almost impossible to target the market by a mortar fire from Serb positions in hills overlooking Sarajevo.

Retired Canadian colonel Stephen Youdry went a step further, saying the explosion at Markale was “staged to blame Bosnian Serb forces”. …
Karadzic has been charged on eleven counts of genocide and war crimes, including two attacks on Markale in February 1994 and August 1995…

“The responsibility of one (Serb) side was wrongly determined,” Youdry told the court. Former Canadian general Michael Gaultier said the Unprofor investigation didn’t determine where the grenade was fired from, nor “which side was responsible”.

A spectre of Bosnia’s war (UK Morning Star, Nov. 23, 2010 by Marcus Papadopoulos)

The revelation by Major-General David Fraser, who was military assistant to the UN protection force’s (UNPROFOR) sector Sarajevo commander from April 1994 to May 1995, has of course the potential to become a Pandora’s box for the West - if it was to be widely reported by the media.

At risk is the image of the Bosnian Muslim government as an innocent and peace-loving authority - a perception fostered and propagated not only by Western governments but by Western journalists and Western PR firms - that is being brought into serious question.

Fraser’s testimony would also undermine the basis for the Nato bombing of the Bosnian Serbs in 1994 and 1995.

Under cross-examination by Karadzic, Fraser said he had heard from fellow UN soldiers that the (Muslim) Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina had employed sniper detachments to target Muslim children in the Bosnian capital and to then blame these killings on the Serbian side.
…
Bosnia’s Serb community had, as the former US secretary of state Colin Powell said, “very good reason to be worried about being in a Muslim-dominated country.”

It was inconceivable that the Serbs would tolerate living in an independent, Muslim-led Bosnia and would not resist this with force.

An important factor in explaining why the Western public largely took a negative view of the Serbs during the war in Bosnia was due to how Western journalists reported the conflict.

As former UNPROFOR commander in Bosnia general Sir Michael Rose said: “The reporting and commenting of some members of the press corps in Sarajevo became close to becoming identified to the propaganda machine of the Bosnian government.”

With the vast majority of Western journalists on their side, the Bosnian Muslim authorities took advantage of this by orchestrating the killing of their own people in Sarajevo and then blaming it on the Serbs, knowing that the foreign press would attribute their actions to the Serbian side.
…
What were described as Serbian atrocities were used by former US president Bill Clinton as a pretext for the Nato bombing of the Bosnian Serbs in 1994 and 1995, carried out to achieve a foothold for Washington in a strategically important part of Europe, and to prevent the Russians from attaining future influence in the region - Russia is a traditional ally of the Serbs. […]

And from the horse’s mouth:

Bosnian Army ‘Shelled Children in Srebrenica’ (Balkan Insight, Dec. 13, 2013)

A former Bosniak soldier told the trial of Radovan Karadzic this week that the Bosnian Army opened fire on Bosniak children who were playing football in Srebrenica in 1995.

The former Bosniak soldier, a protected defence witness codenamed KW-12, told Karadzic’s trial at the Hague Tribunal this week that the attack took place in 1995 after a letter had been received from the Sarajevo authorities telling the Bosnian Army to “do something” in order to convince NATO to take the Bosniak side against the Serbs.

Testifying with his face hidden and voice electronically altered, KW-12 said that the shelling, which happened “two or three months before the fall of Srebrenica [in July 1995]”, was immediately blamed on Serb forces.
…
KW-12 said that the authorities in Sarajevo had threatened to kill him after the war because he had told the truth about the events in Srebrenica, but the prosecutor described these claims as “pure fantasy”. […]

ICTY: A common enterprise against the Serbs (Spiked Online, Dec. 6, 2012, by Tara McCormack)

The international court trying cases from the former Yugoslavia is there to heap blame on just one side.

This week, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) found the former prime minister of Kosovo, Ramush Haradinaj, not guilty of all charges against him. Haradinaj had been a commander of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) during the 1999 war in which the majority Albanian area of Kosovo sought to secede from Serbia. The previous week, two Croatian generals, Gotovina and Markac, were acquitted on appeal for charges brought over their role in Operation Storm in 1995. After the verdict of Haradinaj, Serbian president Tomislav Nikolic gave a statement that the ICTY was formed to try the Serbian people. He has a point.
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One of the central but unwritten mandates of the ICTY is the establishment of the official history of the break-up of Yugoslavia. In the early 1990s, the break-up of Yugoslavia and the wars that ensued became central to several aspects of Western intellectual and political life. The wars provided a point of clarity for confused and demoralised Western liberals, intellectuals and journalists who chose to interpret what were civil wars as a rerun of the Holocaust, with the Serbs playing the role of the Nazis. The propaganda war and misrepresentation of the conflict were truly staggering. Thus, the Yugoslav wars became the cause célèbre in the early 1990s and achieved notoriety far beyond the reality of the actual conflict. The UN secretary-general at the time, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, is still reviled for his comments that there were 10 worse wars going on at the same time as Bosnia.

The wars were also internationalised and exploited by the international community. For example, the EC - forerunner of the EU - used the crisis as a way of trying to build a joint foreign-policy identity after the signing of the Maastricht treaty. The EC intervened extensively in the very early days of the conflict, exacerbating and inflaming the situation, explicitly forbidding the Federal State of Yugoslavia from asserting control, and actively supporting the secessionist states in the name of democracy and human rights. All the while, the EC cavalierly ignored key questions of statehood, citizenship and self-determination. It was simply assumed that various groups in Yugoslavia couldn’t possibly care about whether the state they had lived in since 1945 was dissolved overnight and new states created - a policy that, of course, no Western state made up of regions, such as Spain or the UK, would tolerate.

The secessionist states reached out for, and received, outside recognition and support, thus avoiding the need for political negotiation and compromise with other republics. Unsurprisingly, these policies failed to end the conflict in a negotiated political settlement. As the conflict raged on, the US became more directly involved, arming the Bosnian Muslims and Croats and allowing Iran to transport Mujahideen into Bosnia to fight the Bosnian Serbs.

When in 1999 the KLA launched a violent guerrilla war in order to achieve secession for Kosovo from Serbia, this script was repeated. Once again, Serbs were portrayed as the new Nazis and the Kosovo Albanians’ key tactic was to gain international support - which they certainly did, with NATO following KLA instructions from the ground. In April that year, at the height of the conflict, Tony Blair delivered his famous ‘Chicago Speech’ in which he spoke of the need to eschew the outdated doctrines of state sovereignty and non-intervention and called for a new type of international community.

So a key role of the ICTY has been that of the ‘court historian’: to write the official history of the break-up of Yugoslavia. The aim is not so much to cover for Western interests as it is to erase the role of external intervention and locate the blame for everything on the Serbs. […]

“During his encounter with Karadzic and Mladic in August 1992, Gray said he concluded that the RS president ‘had a genuine interest’ in stopping the fighting and avoiding civilian casualties.“


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You can't really read much about the crimes of others, so people use Google translate for some of the articles, like this one about the trial for the crimes committed by one of the Muslim commanders:

March 24, 2016


Sarajevo - War commander of the Third Corps of the Army of BiH Sakib Mahmuljin has repeatedly passed the camp of the "El Mujahid" and was informed about the crimes made up of members of the unit, but did nothing to prevent them from doing so or to punish those who were brutally killing captured soldiers, civilians and medical personnel.

He said that yesterday Milanko Kajganić Prosecutor at the Court of BiH, where the reading of the indictment and presentation of introductory arguments Mahmuljin trial for war crimes. Mahmuljin is accused of war crimes against Serbian prisoners and civilians because as superior detachment "El Mujahid" did nothing to prevent the crimes committed in 1995 in the area Vozuća. The indictment alleges that in the infamous camps of the "El Mujahid" killed more than 50 and tortured dozens of Serbs and many were ritually chopped off heads. - Members of the detachments were killed in the most atrocious ways of torturing prisoners of war. Thus, in the near Meadows Momir Mitrovic and Predrag Knezevic were beheaded - said Kajganić. He added that the camp near the village of Kamenica killed Gojko Vujicic in which they are fired. - Then they cut his head and showed the prisoners, and then hung on the wall that look - he said Kajganić citing the names of prisoners who were broken bones, teeth and cut ears and that they were beaten while they were tied with wire. Kajganić pointed out that the mujahedin from the Fifth Battalion of the BH Army kidnapped 63 captured soldiers and three civilians and took them to the camp near Kamenica, and later that number increased - From 11 to 29 September with the use of firearms and bladed weapons killed 52 prisoners of war. Have been found and identified ten of them, while others are missing. Prisoners were tortured with electric shocks, under the door they placed knives, swords, hand and electric saws and suffered both physical and mental pain - said Kajganić. Mahmuljin is, according to him, no doubt had opportunities to prevent these crimes, but failed to do so. - Even the then president of the BH Presidency Alija Izetbegovic during the field visit had information about what was going on and asked to be examined inhumane behavior towards prisoners, but this has not been done - said Kajganić.

Mahmuljin said that he understood the charges. His lawyer Fahrudin Ibrišimović said that the Prosecution had undertaken a difficult task to prove the guilt of saying that Mahmuljin not guilty of the crimes. Victims' family members attended the beginning of the trial, while the prosecutor read the indictment, he heard the cry. Zdravko Jorgić says his twenty year old son Dalibor gone on Vozuća. - Only now I found out that he was detained and that he was in the camp of the mujahedin. It's been 20 years, and I did not know anything or heard about it. So now I found out that he was captured and executed. I think it's a disgrace to the country before anything could be solved. I now do not believe in this court, but I hope that justice will find its way to victory - said Jorgić. Raduška Pavlović from 1995 seeks Sladjan. son, who was 20 years old when he was captured. - I have a picture in which he is bound. After that, nothing ever I heard of him. I also lost my husband - she continues the story through tears. Nada Maric on 10 September 1995 found out that she was missing husband Mark and two brothers. - Једног брата нашла сам након четири године, а други је изашао полумртав из логора у Зеници. - One brother was found after four years and the other came half dead out of the camp in Zenica. Now I heard that Marko was captured. Some witnesses have said that his head was cut off on the block in Kamenica, but we did not find the remains - witness Maric. Ruzica Pejic said that after 13 years, they found the skull of her husband Miladin at the camp in Kamenica. - Then it was taken to Kamenica claiming to belong to the murdered Muslim - said Pejic. Branka Aulić husband was killed in 1995. - He was killed by the Mujahedin. His body was cut in pieces like the bodies of his five comrades - says AULIC.

The trial Mahmuljin, who is out on bail, is scheduled for April 6th. At the trial will be heard and protected witnesses and people who were interrogated in the processes conducted before the Hague Tribunal. Among them will be the victims, but also some members of the Army of BiH and the security services. Milanko Kajganić announced that it will present evidence about the relevant actions taken by members of the "El Mujahid" and prove the relationship of superior and subordinate.
 

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Thanks Billie for the great information. The Clintons and the scoundrels in their administration lied through their teeth about this whole situation. Please be aware that there are some sane well-informed Americans who stand with the Serbs.
 
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Yes, I am a subject of the great democratic empire that goes around the world ruining societies.

You know what people in Serbia found funny about this sentence? How it coincided with the 17th anniversary of the start of the criminal NATO bombardment of Serbia. They wanted Karadzic's sentence to hide much bigger crime - their own.
 
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You know what people in Serbia found funny about this sentence? How it coincided with the 17th anniversary of the start of the criminal NATO bombardment of Serbia. They wanted Karadzic's sentence to hide much bigger crime - their own.


Oh, trust me, I know. The American ruling class is an opponent of its own people as well as all Christian countries. The people who rule the United States (and the younger generation of Americans) are ignorant lunatics. They are motivated by hatred of anything Christian. The whole situation in the Balkans was simply a matter of siding with Muslims against Christians to them.

They exaggerated what happened at Srebrenica and Albania. Albright and Richard Clarke deserve to rot in hell for what they did to Kosovo. Absolutely disgraceful. I have seen the videos of all the churches being burned.
 
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Oh I see, you have a clu. You probably meant "They exaggerated what happened at Srebrenica and Kosovo". As for Albania, CIA used it to install Albanian terrorists trained by them, so called KLA. Among other interesting things, they had a property known as "Yellow house" in which they killed thousands of people whose organs they traded. International community (read UK and USA) don't let that fully investigated to these days despite thousands of evidences all over the world.
 
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Britbox, the narrative about Kosovo, Serbia, etc. was just another chapter in the war waged by the idiotic leaders of the US and the EU against Christian cultures and societies. That is all it amounts to. The Hague Court is an utter disgrace, the epitome of a kangaroo court if ever there was one. Its only purpose from the start has been to demonize Serbs in a completely biased fashion. This sentencing of Karadzic is the only latest chapter to it.

The leftist writer Diana Johnstone has written some brilliant pieces on the dishonesty surrounding the so-called genocide at Srebrenica. Also, I would highly recommend this piece to anyone who is looking to understand the Balkans wars properly instead of through the DC-EU propaganda filter.

"Contrary to NATO claims of 100,000 or more Albanians purportedly massacred by the Serbs, postwar investigators found fewer than 5,000 deaths – 1,500 of which happened after NATO occupied the province and the Albanian pogroms began."

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BRAVO -- callitennis.


what is WHITE WASHED n the whole sordid FRAUD s this:


---------------


germany, uk, france, eu -- bascally -- AND the clnton admi --

schemed ...


to foment an ATTACK by croatia aganst serbians IN croatia -- under guise of ''croatian autonomy"

whch LED to the larger PLAN -- to enter NATO and of course BEHND T ALL -- THE USA --

TO SLICE UP YUGOSLAVIA


under the pretext of ''SERBIANS COMMITING GENOCIDE: "


this -- folks was the INCUBATOR -- nad ''small experiment" n what s NOW known and ROUTINELY DONE BY THE USA (untl RUSSIA STOPPED IT N SYRIA) --


AS ''REGIME CHANGE"


'color revolutons"

by brnging in FOREIGN EXTREMSTS - FUNDED BY YOU KNOW WHO'S -- --

TRAIINED by CIA or other ''local operatives" n such nations --

and THEN after bombng yugoslavia INTO PIECES --


declarng CROATIA , MONTENEGRO , AS ''ndependent"

leaving the REAL TARGET for conquest -- SERBIA

ISOLATED ....


and WITHIN SERBIA -- were smuggled n plenty of ALBANIAN extremists who dreamed of "greater albania" -- to GRAB SERBIAN tgerritorty

anbd THAT was made into a 'CAUSE CELEBRE"

by the USA -- EU -- part of the plan --

to further REDUCE serbia WHILE painting serbia as GENOCIDAL...


because SERBIA is an EXTREMELY important strategic location


BETWEEN THE BLACK SEA -- AND BULGARIA -- TO ALLOW


the PIPELINES THE USA WANTED FROM far away central asian AZERBAIJAN -- BY THE CASPIAN SEA


names as the 'NABUCCO pipeline" to MUSCLE IN on EUROEP'S gas market

using and controlling AZERBAIJAN gas FROM FAR AWAY tha tdoesnt even belong to the USA.

IT failed because the cost -- NO EU member would wish to pay -- they INSTEAD


demanded that RUSSIA that already BUILT her pipelines that SUPPLYU EU WITH RUSSIAN GAS...


also CARRY THE AZERBAIJAN gas -- B UT RUSSIA also has to GIVE UP OWNERSHIP of the pipelines!!


now -- if THAT isn't GRAND THEFT HIGHWAY


authored by the USA -- i don't know what isn't.,


NOT ONLY THAT -- SERBIA also happens to be the CLOSEST KIN AND COUSINS

AND MOST FAITHFUL ORTHODOX COUNTRY sharing RUSSIA'S own orthodoxy ....

as opposed to the PROTESTANT, CATHOLIC, ANGLICAN ''west".

which the RUSSIAN AND SERBIAN orthodox do not consider TRULY SPIRITUAL buit ALL ABOUT MONEY...


SO -- THAT IS THE REAL REASON -- SERBIA IS TO BE PUNISHED -- BECAUSE SHE - LIKE DJOKOVIC

when he first came around or when he says something HONEST about the hypocrisy of the west (and gets flakked in the tennis press) --

SERBIA has ALWAYS looked to RUSSIA AS ''OUR TRUE BROTHERS" ...

AND TO DESTROY SERBIA =-- MEANS TO SLAP RUSSIA, especially in the 1990's

when USSR dissolved *(DUE TO TRAITOR GORBACHEV who fell in love with his own ''WESTERN CELEBRITY" LIKE THE ''LIBERAL RUSSIANS" TODAY) --


AND SIMPLY HAD NO STRENGTH at the time to come to THEIR BROTHERS' AND SISTERS' COMFORT


while USA/NATO were bombing yugoslavia AND THEN serbia to smithereens.


THAT'S WHY TODAY -- THE SERBIAS -- WHO KNOW their leaders are HANDPICKED BY THE USA AND NATO AND EU -- but can do little about it --


NEVERTHELESS ARE DEMANDING -- AGAIN -- THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO BE UNDER NATO..and want to have the CHOICE to continue to be CLOSE with their HISTORIC AND TRADITIONAL , ETHNIC AND CULTURAL COUSINS


THEIR FELLOW SLAVS IN ORTHODOX FAITH -- THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE.


GO NOLE!!
 

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Oh I see, you have a clu. You probably meant "They exaggerated what happened at Srebrenica and Kosovo". As for Albania, CIA used it to install Albanian terrorists trained by them, so called KLA. Among other interesting things, they had a property known as "Yellow house" in which they killed thousands of people whose organs they traded. International community (read UK and USA) don't let that fully investigated to these days despite thousands of evidences all over the world.



exact

EXACTLY!!!


this particular matter of SERBIA -- and DJOKOVIC

is EXACTLY why I AM here...


when , in real grattude to hikm - britbox remembered me to come and exchange here in his new website

because he remember i was so ''quarrelsome" with stuff like this -- and always got complaints


and years ago --


I got banned


two separate sites --= TENNIS.COM AND ANOTHER blog I BETTER NOT mention just out of respect so the person doesn' tget too much flak --


but ohn BOTH occasions i tried to educate people about the REAL story about serbia --

( was then reading plenty writing by a writer named NEBOSJA MALIC )

AND GOT BANNED


the moment i started to explain MORE about NOVAK and where he's coming from with his ''remarks" or his ''chip opn the shoulder" as people would accuse him

and that was when he was just challening rafa and roger...


and I WOULD NOT LET IT GO -- and kept warning them all:

|"you all don't know a thing abotu nole and what he and his people really went through -- and HE' SGOING TO BE NUMBER ONE SOMEDAY , HE';S GOING TO BE AN ALL-TIME GREAT

-- AND HE'S THE MOST DIGNIFIED OF THE PLAYERS DESPITE THE COLD RECEPTION HE GETS FROM THE WEST POWERS THAT BE AND IN MEDIA AND AMONG FANS...!!

YOU JUST WAIT AND SEE" !!


ROFLMAO!!!
 
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Oh, trust me, I know. The American ruling class is an opponent of its own people as well as all Christian countries. The people who rule the United States (and the younger generation of Americans) are ignorant lunatics. They are motivated by hatred of anything Christian. The whole situation in the Balkans was simply a matter of siding with Muslims against Christians to them.

They exaggerated what happened at Srebrenica and Albania. Albright and Richard Clarke deserve to rot in hell for what they did to Kosovo. Absolutely disgraceful. I have seen the videos of all the churches being burned.

AND that burning of people alive --


was REPEATED BY KIEV FASCISTS OUT IN POWER BY NULAND UNDER OBAMA...

how they went on a rampage in ODESSA -- THE 'pearl of the black sea"

in order to SUPRESS the RUSSIAN ETHNICS who DID NOT want to be ruled by KIEV FASCISTS...


and the KIEV loyal ukrainians CHASED the russian ethnics to the buildings and BURNED THEM ALIVE...


dozens of them...

but -- LOOK AT THE WONDERFUL


'PROJECT" OF AMERICA -=- YET AGAIN....
 

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Yes, I am a subject of the great democratic empire that goes around the world ruining societies.

BUT FOR SAYING THAT -- CALLITENNIS...


you show YOUR TRUE DIGNITY -- THAT OF A TRUE HUMAN BEING.


IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT -- MAY -- MAY -- YET BE A REASON THAT ''america" MIGHT deserve salvation at all.
 

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“Presumed innocent until proven Serb”
–Balkans forum commenter

“The falseness of the entire situation here defies description.”
– Radovan Karadzic, Opening Defense Statement

THANK YOU BILLIE.


i suddenly remember a HUGE argument i had with a cousin -- I AM FILIPINO by the way -- so of a very, very different culture than yours --


but we were discussing when I visited HOME to the philippines long ago -- around the time serbia was being bombed...

that I was very suspicious of all the news abotu how ''SERBIANS MASSACRING THE OTHERS"

and we had a huge, huge row n the famly )(ui know, drinking , neighbors , lots of politics talk,k
b ecause filipinos in the provinces like to do that about world affairs) -

because I said" all your explanations abotu NATO about the USA - ABOUT SAVING the bosnians and all that -- is FAKERY".
 

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You are welcome Teddy. I honestly think that most people can't comprehend what war means unless they had to suffer it and its consequences. I highly doubt most people even know where Srebrenica is and what the situation there was before and during this sad war. In 1992 Karadzic pleaded with Muslims and the international community to keep negotiating until all sides could reach an acceptable agreement, but nope. They rushed into acknowledging the separation of B&H knowing that Serbs couldn't allow events from WW2 to happen to them again and would fight back. And some of the horrible things from the past did happen. And now ISIS has a country where they can train and recruit new members.
 
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You are welcome Teddy. I honestly think that most people can't comprehend what war means unless they had to suffer it and its consequences. I highly doubt most people even know where Srebrenica is and what the situation there was before and during this sad war. In 1992 Karadzic pleaded with Muslims and the international community to keep negotiating until all sides could reach an acceptable agreement, but nope. They rushed into acknowledging the separation of B&H knowing that Serbs couldn't allow events from WW2 to happen to them again and would fight back. And some of the horrible things from the past did happen. And now ISIS has a country where they can train and recruit new members.

what is one of the saddest and most frightening thing n our world s this:


the USA -led ''WESTERN EMPIRE" has succeeded, SUCCEEDED so much in ''storytelling"..\\

to its own people and the world that

TRUTH -- what REALLY happened and what things REALLY are like beyond that ''storytelling"
NOW people have to call "the alternative"...

just a 'different version"...

and THAT is exactly what the trouble is: the USA-WESTERN STORY TELLING

it decdes "what serbs are -- what russians ARE -- what chinese ARE -- what muslms ARE -- what africans ARE-- what economics IS - what good management SHOULD BE - what is justice - what are the LAWS - why people are like THAT - WHAT is aggression -- who STARTED it FIRST...who OWNS the land..the Serbs MUST gve up ther land -- the RUSSIANS must give up THAT land...NATO is DEFENDING...USA IS DEFENDNG....THOSE OTHERS ARE THREATS...THEIR LEADERS ARE CRIMINALS OURS ARE GREAT."

U know what i mean.

and it is partly THAT whch HAS to be dismantled.