Premier League/Champions League 22/23
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Yeah Scholes was a different level. When Cantona was going absent during big European games, Scholes was always pulling a shift, without fuss and as you say, no airs and graces, none of the Big I Am, though he genuinely was a great footballer…
After being robbed by Var in the last-minute last week Tottenham respond with a last-minute winner in Marseille to win 2-1 and top the group 
Hopefully Son is okay after his injury 
Hopefully Son is okay after his injury 
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Amazing how long he lasted with Everton, really he should have been sacked last season...
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It's stunning mate. I still don't even understand how he earned the job in the first place!
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They should be relegated down two divisions and have 20 points deducted for each of the last ten seasons. Seriously.
Once it’s proven, that is.
Remember Pep saying that he’d leave if they’re lying to him? Pep will only leave if there’s a club that’s already rich and successful needs a manager. He’s hardly ever going to go to a club that actually requires hard work. Can’t see him at my club, Leeds…
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Yeah he’ll only go where’s the money is, and success guaranteed. Given a choice between him and Jose at my club Leeds, I’d pick the special ones every time…
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Money - and stars and readymade success. He’s won about 7 league titles since he left Barcelona, at clubs guaranteed to succeed, and no champions league?
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David Squires on ⦠Everton, Leeds and Pep Guardiolaâs London bawling
Our cartoonist on the new man at Goodison Park, the former man at Elland Road and a tough few days for Manchester City
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Pep's a top coach - sure, he's found himself in ideal circumstances, but you make your own luck.
As for City, not sure how they are going to wriggle out of this one. No doubt there will be an army of expensive lawyers salivating over their predicament, but if there aren't some significant penalties, then it's going to be a very bad look for the Premier League.
Rangers got relegated to the bottom tier in Scotland, and that was a big call for the Scots in what is effectively a two team league. The Premier League would suffer far less if City had a similar punishment - but are they going to be brave enough to do something on that scale? Perhaps, with the Football League not coming under their jurisdiction, it might not be be their say....
As for City, not sure how they are going to wriggle out of this one. No doubt there will be an army of expensive lawyers salivating over their predicament, but if there aren't some significant penalties, then it's going to be a very bad look for the Premier League.
Rangers got relegated to the bottom tier in Scotland, and that was a big call for the Scots in what is effectively a two team league. The Premier League would suffer far less if City had a similar punishment - but are they going to be brave enough to do something on that scale? Perhaps, with the Football League not coming under their jurisdiction, it might not be be their say....
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Another question of course is, what happens to those titles City won, if they’re found guilty? In Italy they took titles off Juventus but I think those seasons were declared to be ones where nobody won the league? This would be unfair, in my opinion. The second place side was also competing to win the league - they did nothing wrong!
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They stripped Lance Armstrong of the Tour de France titles and didn't replace him... most of the potential replacements like Ullrich etc had also been done for doping
It's a difficult one. I'd personally leave them with the titles, but give them a decent punishment as a deterrent - such as relegating them out of the premier league.
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I’d take the titles and give them to the runners up, because they all entered to try win the race. If the first placed team cheated, erase them!They stripped Lance Armstrong of the Tour de France titles and didn't replace him... most of the potential replacements like Ullrich etc had also been done for doping
It's a difficult one. I'd personally leave them with the titles, but give them a decent punishment as a deterrent - such as relegating them out of the premier league.
This season I’d relegate them five divisions - especially if Leeds end up 18th in the league, they can take Leeds place in the table…
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