Poll: Are Hillary Clinton, the New York Times, and CNN right that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset?

Are Hillary Clinton, the New York Times, and CNN right that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent?

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mrzz

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After a long time I stopped and watched Tulsi Gabbard speaking and debating. She is light years ahead of the politicians around her in a handful of aspects. No wonder she is down in the polls...
 
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Personally I've liked the anti-military-industrial-complex stance that Tulsi has taken. But I confess I'm a bit confused by her. It's one thing to position yourself as a con-conventional candidate, but I sometimes get the impression that she is so far off the mainstream of the Democratic party that you wonder why she's even bothering to contest the primaries. But on the other hand, it's easy to see why she's more inclined to go on Fox than MSNBC as whenever she goes on MSNBC, they spend most of the time re-litigating her Syria trip as if she was the only one who went! It's incredibly unfair and I wish they would move on from that and actually talk about other issues with her and not so much about foreign policy/ military issues. The media are appallingly incompetent, it's really stunning to watch. But then... and this is where Tulsi confuses me... she spends most of her time on Fox with the opinion people who are frankly just Trump State Tv at this point. I would have greater respect for her if she focussed the majority of her time with the likes of Brett Baier and Chris Wallace. As I said she flat out confuses me. I don't get what she's trying to do.

As for HRC... putting the focus on Tulsi was either incredibly stupid as she just promoted Tulsi's brand.... or... she's forced Tulsi to state publicly that she won't run as a 3rd party candidate. Which means that if she was planning on doing that she's been outed. And here's the thing... I wouldn't have been shocked if she had run as a 3rd party candidate. As for the Russian asset thing? At this point making that accusation is as effective as calling someone racist. It's lost its power...
 

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Personally I've liked the anti-military-industrial-complex stance that Tulsi has taken. But I confess I'm a bit confused by her. It's one thing to position yourself as a con-conventional candidate, but I sometimes get the impression that she is so far off the mainstream of the Democratic party that you wonder why she's even bothering to contest the primaries.

She is off the mainstream of the Democratic Party in only one respect: she dissents on foreign policy. In every other way, she is entirely in line with the party (that said, foreign policy difference is significant).

Are you aware that Gabbard endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016?

But on the other hand, it's easy to see why she's more inclined to go on Fox than MSNBC as whenever she goes on MSNBC, they spend most of the time re-litigating her Syria trip as if she was the only one who went! It's incredibly unfair and I wish they would move on from that and actually talk about other issues with her and not so much about foreign policy/ military issues.

But that is all there really is to talk to Gabbard about because in every other way she is a standard Democrat. All of the Democratic candidates are basically identical in their views except in terms of economic details to matters such as healthcare.

But then... and this is where Tulsi confuses me... she spends most of her time on Fox with the opinion people who are frankly just Trump State Tv at this point.

She has mostly gone on Tucker Carlson's show, and what she and Carlson have in common is that they dissent from the establishment view of foreign policy. They have both been attacked over it and that makes Carlson sympathetic to her.

And allow me to ask. If Fox's nighttime anchors amount to "Trump State TV," then do you acknowledge that every other major network and every major newspaper was Obama State TV and remains DNCTV? (And, btw, Tucker Carlson's show has far more diversity of opinion on it than CNN or MSNBC. In fact, I think he wastes far too many segments talking to Democrats.)

I would have greater respect for her if she focussed the majority of her time with the likes of Brett Baier and Chris Wallace. As I said she flat out confuses me. I don't get what she's trying to do.

Well let me explain this to you.....Baier and Wallace don't want to give her a platform because they have a standard establishment view of foreign policy.

At this point making that accusation is as effective as calling someone racist. It's lost its power...

Agreed, but you may as well just say that the accusation is inaccurate.
 

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And Tulsi Gabbard just sued Hillary for defamation.....remember, as Obama said, if women ran the world there would be total peace and conflict would be eliminated.
 

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And Tulsi Gabbard just sued Hillary for defamation.....remember, as Obama said, if women ran the world there would be total peace and conflict would be eliminated.
Tulsi is a smart cookie. Her problem is she isn't a woke cookie and she's also a cookie that's actually been on the ground and served in the armed forces (unlike half of these draft dodgers),. Oh, and she's pretty articulate too. It doesn't play well to the current Democrat base, where being a self-proclaimed victim seems to be a badge of honor.
 
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A man challenged Tulsi for a pushup competition in a townhall meeting and lost to her who was going like an energizer bunny and that too in high heel shoes.

Tulsi used Bhagavad-Gita when she took oath as congresswoman.
 
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I agree with cali on this. I don't think Tulsi is Putin's Candidate, even if he prefers her.
 

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I'd be interested to hear @Moxie 's views on Tulsi Gabbard,

She;s mixed race, female, a Dem... doesn't pretend she's a red indian, or a Ukraine energy expert, crossover appeal... what's not to like?
 

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Are you aware that Gabbard endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016?

Not only did Tulsi endorse Bernie in 2016, she did it the right way. Tulsi was the vice-chair of DNC at that time. When you are vice-chair you are not supposed to show preference to one candidate over other. So, she actually resigned her post and then endorsed Bernie. Compare this to what Debbie did. Debbie was the chair. She was pretty much promoting Hillary and obstructing Bernies, though did not publicly say it. She was definitely not neutral in her role as the chair of DNC.
 
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And apparently now Bernie Sanders is a Russian asset too, lol. Anyone who opposes the Democratic establishment is an agent of the Russian government!

Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign


Although I supported your view w.r.t. Tulsi, I oppose your view here.

First of all this information is coming from our intel agencies who know what they are talking about. This is not coming from an individual like Hillary Clinton.

It is highly believable that the Russians might be supporting Sanders (to win the primary, not the general election).

It is well known that many independents and even many democrats don't like the extreme socialism being advocated by Bernie. So, if Bernie wins it makes Trump's life even easier in the general election. So, it is highly conceivable that the Russians are trying to help Bernie win the democratic nomination.

Having said that, I don't think the Russians want any democrat to win the general election. Their preference obviously will be their lap dog Trump to win the general election.
 
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