Jack Sock (and other potential second tier players)

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I've had my eye on Jack Sock for a few years, first taking notice of him because of his memorable name. But of the American players on the radar, he seems to have the most potential - at least until we get to the really young guys like Jared Donaldson (age 18, #149) and Francis Tiafoe (age 17, #284).

Anyhow, Sock is 22 years old, turning 23 in September - and thus just about a week older than Bernard Tomic, or about a year and a half younger than Grigor Dimitrov and about a year older than Jiri Vesely and Dominic Thiem. I mention these other names because they all seem like potential future top 20 players.

Sock has risen gradually but steadily. After his defeat of Borna Coric today, he's holding steady at #31 in the live rankings, which happens to be his career high. Here are his year-end rankings starting with 2010, the year he turned 18: 878, 381, 150, 102, 42, (31). Let's assume that he continues to rise this year - he's a good candidate to sneak into the top 20 before the end of the year.

Sock has one title to his name the ATP 250 US Clay Court Championship in April of this year, in which he defeated fellow American Sam Querrey, a player who was of similar caliber at Sock's age, although Querrey has never ranked higher than #17.

It is worth mentioning that Sock has a Grand Slam title under his belt - as a doubles tandem with Vasek Pospisil over the Bryan brothers at Wimbledon last year. They have since lost to the Bryan brothers in two Masters finals. He's currently ranked #6 among all doubles players in the world.

Anyhow, I have some hope for Sock. I don't think he'll be an elite player, but he seems a lock to be at least a "third tier" player - a guy that hangs out in the #10-30 range - and he could be better than that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sock win some more titles, an ATP 500 or two, and even sneak into the top 10 at some point. I see him a group of players that includes Vesely, Thiem, Tomic, Goffin, and maybe a few others, that aren't quite good enough to rise into the elite, but will be around for years to come - the new Almagros, Isners, and Simons of the sport.
 

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Jack is a 2 times GS champion, he also has a mixed doubles title earned in 2011 at the USO with Melanie Oudin.
 

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El Dude said:
I've had my eye on Jack Sock for a few years, first taking notice of him because of his memorable name. But of the American players on the radar, he seems to have the most potential - at least until we get to the really young guys like Jared Donaldson (age 18, #149) and Francis Tiafoe (age 17, #284).

Anyhow, Sock is 22 years old, turning 23 in September - and thus just about a week older than Bernard Tomic, or about a year and a half younger than Grigor Dimitrov and about a year older than Jiri Vesely and Dominic Thiem. I mention these other names because they all seem like potential future top 20 players.

Sock has risen gradually but steadily. After his defeat of Borna Coric today, he's holding steady at #31 in the live rankings, which happens to be his career high. Here are his year-end rankings starting with 2010, the year he turned 18: 878, 381, 150, 102, 42, (31). Let's assume that he continues to rise this year - he's a good candidate to sneak into the top 20 before the end of the year.

Sock has one title to his name the ATP 250 US Clay Court Championship in April of this year, in which he defeated fellow American Sam Querrey, a player who was of similar caliber at Sock's age, although Querrey has never ranked higher than #17.

It is worth mentioning that Sock has a Grand Slam title under his belt - as a doubles tandem with Vasek Pospisil over the Bryan brothers at Wimbledon last year. They have since lost to the Bryan brothers in two Masters finals. He's currently ranked #6 among all doubles players in the world.

Anyhow, I have some hope for Sock. I don't think he'll be an elite player, but he seems a lock to be at least a "third tier" player - a guy that hangs out in the #10-30 range - and he could be better than that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sock win some more titles, an ATP 500 or two, and even sneak into the top 10 at some point. I see him a group of players that includes Vesely, Thiem, Tomic, Goffin, and maybe a few others, that aren't quite good enough to rise into the elite, but will be around for years to come - the new Almagros, Isners, and Simons of the sport.

His forehand is a pretty incredible shot. Yeah he definitely could become a staple of the top 20.
 

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It will be interesting to see how he does against Rafa. I don't expect him to win, but it will be Rafa's first real challenge of the tournament and I wouldn't be surprised to see Sock take a set off him, with Rafa having to adjust and re-gather before doing his usual steam-roll.
 

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El Dude said:
It will be interesting to see how he does against Rafa. I don't expect him to win, but it will be Rafa's first real challenge of the tournament and I wouldn't be surprised to see Sock take a set off him, with Rafa having to adjust and re-gather before doing his usual steam-roll.

It will be a battle of who can better play out their backhand corner. I don't expect Sock to win by any stretch, but if Sock hides his backhand, he could do some damage.
 

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Here's a crazy thought: Sock, at age 22, is the youngest player still left in the tournament, going into the fourth round. After Sock I believe the next youngest player is Kei Nishikori, who is 25. Crazy.
 

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Considering his age, a top 20 player for Jack is a given. I am also believing his technical level will be improving still, far from being close to the maximum.
Having a strong serve and FH, while playing a lot of doubles thus developing his volleying skills around the net, could make him a very good grass court player.
Having won a clay court title before a HC or grass and following it up with a 4th round at RG speaks for itself that yes, US players can achieve good results on clay.
I hope he will bridge back to the pre-Roddick era, when Agassi, Courier and Chang won in Paris and make him a serious contender in the future on clay.
 

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Sock is on a great run atm, but honestly who knows if he is going to keep it up for a long time. It is not easy to consistently be good or great. There are many players that are on a high for a few months and then they come back to earth. Jack seems like a nice young man and he does have a nice serve and a good forehand. :D
 

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He has really improved since coming back from his surgery. I think Top 20 is definite but Top 10 I'm not sure. Maybe, as El Dude puts it, he might have a cup of coffee there before he heads back down into the Top 11-20 range. But who knows? He could end up staying for a full course meal!
 

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Billie said:
Sock is on a great run atm, but honestly who knows if he is going to keep it up for a long time. It is not easy to consistently be good or great. There are many players that are on a high for a few months and then they come back to earth. Jack seems like a nice young man and he does have a nice serve and a good forehand. :D

Of course, many things could happen to the players, which could derail their career. But I am a believer that with some success the appetite will increase further and he seems to be seriously committed since the adversities hit him hard. I hope he stays on course and does not loses the hunger.
Do I need to mention that I hope Vasek and Jack will do very well in Paris??;)
 

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herios said:
Billie said:
Sock is on a great run atm, but honestly who knows if he is going to keep it up for a long time. It is not easy to consistently be good or great. There are many players that are on a high for a few months and then they come back to earth. Jack seems like a nice young man and he does have a nice serve and a good forehand. :D

Of course, many things could happen to the players, which could derail their career. But I am a believer that with some success the appetite will increase further and he seems to be seriously committed since the adversities hit him hard. I hope he stays on course and does not loses the hunger.
Do I need to mention that I hope Vasek and Jack will do very well in Paris??;)

I don't know if you mentioned it or not, but I know your preferences in tennis my dear herios. I am cheering for them as well.:D

As for Sock, I wish him all the best, and his family.:angel:
 

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herios said:
Jack is a 2 times GS champion, he also has a mixed doubles title earned in 2011 at the USO with Melanie Oudin.

He is a 3 time GS champion (if you include junior events)
 

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