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Fastgrass

Hi everyone .
After watching his last matches against delpo I noticed
change in mindset .
Throughout the year , he was injured and mentally declined to such extend that many of us , analysts suggested he should retire .
But now he is looking calm , believing in his play , mentally stable like 2007 .
We cannot expect domination from him , one major and
2-4 masters is definitely not difficult for him if he plays
next 2-3 years with such positive mindset and determination .

Also BH DTL is working again for him , that is his big weapon along with Forehand .

IMO he will have very good season next week year .
Not like 2004-07 but at least like 2012 .

Note - How many of you think he will win Paris ?
IMO if plays with kind of form he will have good chance to beat nole and nadal back to back .but he needs positive mindset .
 
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NADAL2005RG

Well, Federer has had indoor success against Nadal in the past.....but there is no way Federer can beat 2013 Nadal at Paris. Nadal is just too great for the former champion. So unless Ferrer takes out Nadal (which might require an injury), no chance of Federer winning Paris.
 

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I'm starting to want to see Nadal lose just to deflate your bubble, NADAL2005RG ;-). I know, Nadal is great, but this is indoor hardcourt season and don't forget that Rafa lost to Novak at the China Open and hasn't won a tournament since the US Open, two months ago. He may be the best player on tour right now, but he's not a lock to win Paris, let alone the WTF.

fastgrass, first things first. Roger's play is encouraging but its probably unlikely that he returns to 2012 form, when he was #1 in the world for a few months. Let's hope that he returns to being a factor at Slams and puts himself in a position to compete for next year's Wimbledon. Even so, its hard to imagine him beating Rafa, Novak, or even Andy there. I'd love to see him win one more, though!
 
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Yeah but after all those high-intensity American matches, Nadal was never going to be ready for the Asian Swing. Wisely skipped Basel.

If Nadal loses early at Wimbledon next year, Federer might win it. I don't really have any confidence in Djokovic/Murray. Since Nadal is game-on for all the other slams, Wimbledon will be Federer's only chance.
 
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NADAL2005RG said:
Well, Federer has had indoor success against Nadal in the past.....but there is no way Federer can beat 2013 Nadal at Paris. Nadal is just too great for the former champion. So unless Ferrer takes out Nadal (which might require an injury), no chance of Federer winning Paris.

NSK its not main point that fed will beat nadal at Paris or not . Most positive thing is he playing well , with his method ( ending points early)
He have best chance to beat nadal if he beats nole , mark my words if.FED BEATS NOLE , PARIS TITLE GOES
FOR FED REGARD LESS OF FINAL OPPONENT .
2013 NADAL IS NOT SUCH BIG THING AT INDOORS
 

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El Dude said:
I'm starting to want to see Nadal lose just to deflate your bubble, NADAL2005RG ;-). I know, Nadal is great, but this is indoor hardcourt season and don't forget that Rafa lost to Novak at the China Open and hasn't won a tournament since the US Open, two months ago. He may be the best player on tour right now, but he's not a lock to win Paris, let alone the WTF.

fastgrass, first things first. Roger's play is encouraging but its probably unlikely that he returns to 2012 form, when he was #1 in the world for a few months. Let's hope that he returns to being a factor at Slams and puts himself in a position to compete for next year's Wimbledon. Even so, its hard to imagine him beating Rafa, Novak, or even Andy there. I'd love to see him win one more, though!
Good posts by Dude and fastgrass.
This is the first time Federer is playing very good (not the great yet) tennis and he has done it in the last two tourneys. His play level graph and confidence is steadily rising and hope it continues. I don't know if he will beat nole and Rafa both to win Paris but it is sure encouraging to see Roger playing well.
 

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Roger may be back on track, but the issue is the time spent on the track is going to get shorter and shorter. It will be sporadic due to the issues that we have discussed here multiple times, like the loss of half a step, lack of consistency etc. What us Roger fans can hope is that those flashes of brilliance happen at the business end of a slam or a 1000 tournament.
 

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El Dude said:
I'm starting to want to see Nadal lose just to deflate your bubble, NADAL2005RG ;-).

I know you are being funny here and I'm not using you as an example but in general I noticed that a lot of people on this board do project their dislike towards Nadal05RG into Nadal himself and reply to him in a way that doesn't make it any better. I mean there are a billion obnoxious fanbases out there of every single player but that shouldn't make anybody wish that said player loses and goes to hell and it doesn't warrant it either. One should make a clear distinction between obnoxious fans of players from internet boards and players themselves. At times Mastoor was unbearable and came up with some absurd stuff beyond belief yet that didn't change anything for me when it came to watching Djokovic. I just don't understand why it is so hard to ignore certain provocative statements on an internet board. Sorry for off-topic but I find it a bit annoying that so many really great topics on this board get destroyed and interrupted just due to the same user time and time again.
 
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^ Yes its a shame you had to derail this thread with your attack.

The problem with that comparison is, Nadal keeps proving me right. Mastoor hasn't been proven right. The other problem is, the only obnoxiousness on this board is when one poster attacks another (just for having an opinion).
 

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Didi said:
El Dude said:
I'm starting to want to see Nadal lose just to deflate your bubble, NADAL2005RG ;-).

I know you are being funny here and I'm not using you as an example but in general I noticed that a lot of people on this board do project their dislike towards Nadal05RG into Nadal himself and reply to him in a way that doesn't make it any better. I mean there are a billion obnoxious fanbases out there of every single player but that shouldn't make anybody wish that said player loses and goes to hell and it doesn't warrant it either. One should make a clear distinction between obnoxious fans of players from internet boards and players themselves. At times Mastoor was unbearable and came up with some absurd stuff beyond belief yet that didn't change anything for me when it came to watching Djokovic. I just don't understand why it is so hard to ignore certain provocative statements on an internet board. Sorry for off-topic but I find it a bit annoying that so many really great topics on this board get destroyed and interrupted just due to the same user time and time again.

Well, let's not make things anymore serious than they are. It's just tennis after all. And one advantage of Nadal losing is that it makes this poster look even worse than he does when Nadal is winning.
 
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World Tour Finals group B includes Djokovic, Del Potro, Federer.....
 

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Uhhh...which "personal attack" are you referring to NADALRG2005?

Didi, go back to your first line - I was kidding. Of course I don't want Nadal to lose because of NADALRG2005!
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
^ Yes its a shame you had to derail this thread with your attack.

The problem with that comparison is, Nadal keeps proving me right. Mastoor hasn't been proven right. The other problem is, the only obnoxiousness on this board is when one poster attacks another (just for having an opinion).

Where exactly have I attacked you? You either severely lack reading comprehension or you are in some feisty and combative mood. I guess it's the former. Go back and read my post. I mentioned your name in the context of certain users projecting their dislike towards you into Nadal himself which is something I can't really understand as it results into threads being interruped and derailed. And yes I'm aware of the irony that I'm doing it right now but that's just a result of it. Neither did I directly call you obnoxious nor did I attack you in general.

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Well, let's not make things anymore serious than they are. It's just tennis after all. And one advantage of Nadal losing is that it makes this poster look even worse than he does when Nadal is winning.

Denis, I'm not trying to make things serious or to act like a moralizer but when it's so obvious that many people here have a huge problem with Nadal05RG, then I just don't understand why they can't put him on ignore. Time and time again threads have been derailed due to him and all the counter-provocative replies he has forced. Obviously this is off-topic and the wrong thread to talk about this.

El Dude said:
Didi, go back to your first line - I was kidding. Of course I don't want Nadal to lose because of NADALRG2005!

As I said you did nothing wrong, I shoud have addressed this in another thread or with the moderators.
 

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So Nadal2005's new thing is to play the "personal attack" card? What's next, racism?
 

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fastgrass said:
Hi everyone .
After watching his last matches against delpo I noticed
change in mindset .
Throughout the year , he was injured and mentally declined to such extend that many of us , analysts suggested he should retire .
But now he is looking calm , believing in his play , mentally stable like 2007 .
We cannot expect domination from him , one major and
2-4 masters is definitely not difficult for him if he plays
next 2-3 years with such positive mindset and determination .

Also BH DTL is working again for him , that is his big weapon along with Forehand .

IMO he will have very good season next week year .
Not like 2004-07 but at least like 2012 .

Note - How many of you think he will win Paris ?
IMO if plays with kind of form he will have good chance to beat nole and nadal back to back .but he needs positive mindset .

Good post.

What I noticed that was different about Federer against Del Potro was his whole attitude. Instead of acting like he was in royal garments allowing the plebeians to take photographs and wave at King Federer, he played with a chip on his shoulder and with a little bit of an irritated edge. His facial expressions and his urgency reminded me of what he was like in the 2003-2004 days - out to prove something.

If he has that attitude, his game will pick up and he can win any event on the calendar minus the major clay events, where both Nadal and Djokovic have what is probably too big an edge.
 

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1972Murat said:
Roger may be back on track, but the issue is the time spent on the track is going to get shorter and shorter. It will be sporadic due to the issues that we have discussed here multiple times, like the loss of half a step, lack of consistency etc. What us Roger fans can hope is that those flashes of brilliance happen at the business end of a slam or a 1000 tournament.

As I have said before, really the only two players that definitively keep Federer away from being #1 at this stage in his career are Djokovic and Nadal. Not only do they have the weight of shot needed to beat Federer, but they have much more in the way of stamina and durability for playing at the highest level week to week and month to month.

Now, El Dude might point at Federer's losses to other top 10 players, to which I say "fair enough". However, if you were to take Djokovic and Nadal out of the equation for 2013, does anyone seriously think that Federer would not have at least one Slam and at least 3 MS shields?

If he had needed to face Berdych or Murray or Ferrer or Delpo in some big semifinals and finals, you can rest assured that he would have won the majority of them. Having the specter of Djokovic and Nadal hanging over your efforts at the biggest tournaments makes Federer second-guess his own level a little bit more against other opponents.

Now, having said all of that, if he plays with the same irritability and motivation I saw against Del Potro (which was similar to his mindset back in 2003-2004), then not only will the old Big Four be back, but Federer can once again start putting his foot down as the "real #1" at some of the bigger tournaments.

So much has to do with mindset here. If Federer is annoyed and really motivated, then he can raise his level to the necessary heights for winning majors. If he is too laid back and content, then he can just watch his loss count to Djokovic and Nadal continue to rise - because that's all that will happen.

But, again, if he plays with the mindset we saw against Del Potro, watch out.
 

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Didi said:
El Dude said:
I'm starting to want to see Nadal lose just to deflate your bubble, NADAL2005RG ;-).

I know you are being funny here and I'm not using you as an example but in general I noticed that a lot of people on this board do project their dislike towards Nadal05RG into Nadal himself and reply to him in a way that doesn't make it any better. I mean there are a billion obnoxious fanbases out there of every single player but that shouldn't make anybody wish that said player loses and goes to hell and it doesn't warrant it either. One should make a clear distinction between obnoxious fans of players from internet boards and players themselves. At times Mastoor was unbearable and came up with some absurd stuff beyond belief yet that didn't change anything for me when it came to watching Djokovic. I just don't understand why it is so hard to ignore certain provocative statements on an internet board. Sorry for off-topic but I find it a bit annoying that so many really great topics on this board get destroyed and interrupted just due to the same user time and time again.

To be honest I think Nadal05RG could test the patience of a saint. I try to ignore most of what he posts but when thread after thread is hijacked it gets really tiresome. You can't talk to him. I'm afraid he does have basic reading comprehensive and he does use combative language. He likes to provoke and then plead ignorance. Fastgrass is the same type of poster. To be honest I found Mastoor mildly amusing and I never let the fact that he was a Djokovic fan change my opinion of Novak. I'm a huge fan of Rafa and I find some of the posts on here completely OTT.

What I have noticed is that some of the original posters from this forum are posting less frequently. I really hope it's just a coincidence. I'd hate to think that those people are staying away because of certain posters.

Apologies to the mods if they think I've went a bit OTT but I feel better for getting that off my chest.

BTW I do think Federer played some great matches in Basel and Paris. No doubt he has a nightmare group for the WTF but I think he's playing pretty well.