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If you could giving coaching advice to the following six players, what would be. Be very specific and technical, not motivational.

1) Grigor D

2) Kei Nishikori

3) Milos Raonic

4) Stan (dat is my name) Wawrinka

5) The Dog

6) JW Tsonga
 

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I will go first:

1) Grigor D:

a) Play closer to the baseline, you do way to much running
to cover balls. This will also give you the opportunity to get in tighter
to the net when approaching

b) Be more efficient. Lots of wasted energy trying to make athletic, one in ten
gets, and too much flailing at shots.

c) Already on the agenda, but physicality has another level to go

2) Nish:

a) Physicality and overall strengthening of vulnerable body parts must be a huge priority.

3) Milos R:

a) Must work on agility. It should be a huge priority.

b) Additional use of serve and voilley

c) Improve slice backhand

4) Stan:

a) Add more subtely. Prefers the club and sledgehammer, and can lead to one dimensional play at times. Variety will only make the power game more devastating.

b) Better shot selection under pressure.

5) The Dog:

a) Add discipline to shot selection, and develop reliable patterns of play, then use improvisational skills to your advantage

b) Add at lest 20% to physicality.

6) JW Tsonga:

a) Discipline and Patience. You cannot hit through every opponent.

b) Down the line backhand must improve

c) Must improve net positioning. Constantly lunging and flailing to react to passing shots.
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
If you could giving coaching advice to the following six players, what would be. Be very specific and technical, not motivational.

1) Grigor D

2) Kei Nishikori

3) Milos Raonic

4) Stan (dat is my name) Wawrinka

5) The Dog

6) JW Tsonga

Grigor, take it early and get in more.

Kei, you're doing great, keep doing more of the same, but you need to listen when I tell you to fetch me another few laps. And listen to the physio.

Milos, you're not a wardrobe. We're gonna concentrate specifically on your movement. Think of fluid. Lots of run and bend stuff, lots of skipping and dancing. Lots more run and duck stuff.

Stan, you're doing great. Change your name to Stanley Wow! and things be brighter. Your first serve sucked in the opening set against Rafa, so don't believe the hype and start forgetting yourself. Fetch me twenty laps, son, then we're gonna start drilling you on movements.

Dolgo, collect the balls, your year is over.

JW, you're French. Therefore, you love drama. Therefore, visit the theatre for that stuff. I'm gonna toughen you up, soldier. Don't you eyeball me, sonny, I beat your pere down and I beat your grand-pere. Get that cigarette outta yar mush. Fetch me a thousand backhands from that corner there into that corner there and if you miss one sonny, why I'll...
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
I will go first:

1) Grigor D:

a) Play closer to the baseline, you do way to much running
to cover balls. This will also give you the opportunity to get in tighter
to the net when approaching

b) Be more efficient. Lots of wasted energy trying to make athletic, one in ten
gets, and too much flailing at shots.

c) Already on the agenda, but physicality has another level to go

2) Nish:

a) Physicality and overall strengthening of vulnerable body parts must be a huge priority.

3) Milos R:

a) Must work on agility. It should be a huge priority.

b) Additional use of serve and voilley

c) Improve slice backhand

4) Stan:

a) Add more subtely. Prefers the club and sledgehammer, and can lead to one dimensional play at times. Variety will only make the power game more devastating.

b) Better shot selection under pressure.

5) The Dog:

a) Add discipline to shot selection, and develop reliable patterns of play, then use improvisational skills to your advantage

b) Add at lest 20% to physicality.

6) JW Tsonga:

a) Discipline and Patience. You cannot hit through every opponent.

b) Down the line backhand must improve

c) Must improve net positioning. Constantly lunging and flailing to react to passing shots.

Excellent post and agree with most it.

[1] Grigor

Agree about Grigor. He needs to move up the court. I maybe in a minority but I still don't think his movement is anywhere near the top bracket. He's not as naturally athletic as any of the "Big 4" and doesn't read the game as well either (anticipation). I'm a fan though and expect him to get better in most departments... but he's not going to be the second coming of Roger Federer. Physically, I think he'll grow into himself, but he needs to work on general fitness, footwork and movement.

[2] Nishikori

I like Nishikori. Great technician. Takes the ball early and clean. He's smart too. Agree that he needs to improve physically but I feel his natural size imposes a ceiling on what he'll achieve. It wouldn't surprise me if this guy actually won a major down the line if all chips fell into place... although right now he's a little fragile physically to put his name in that hat.

[3] Raonic

I don't think Milos is ever going to be a good enough mover to hit the top echelon. For me he is a Joachim Johannson Fringe Top 10. Couple of big weapons. Always dangerous... I'd tend to agree with your assessment - but I'd focus more on working on his strengths more than his weaknesses, other than his return of serve which blatantly needs work. I know Raonic has a little bit of a fanbase on here but I'm not one of them - I don't particularly enjoy watching him.

[4] Stan

I kind of agree, but at Stan's stage of his career, I think he's better concentrating on what he does best. For me, Stan is a confidence player. He's got a game to beat anybody - it's all about execution. On paper, variety might seem an obvious choice, but I think Stan at his best is more of a "Stop me doing what I do best if you can" and if all cylinders are firing and he's playing with confidence then I'd run with that.

[5] Dolgo

Couldn't have said it better. Dolgo has no "go to" game or patterns of play. He's almost predictably unpredictable. Difficult guy to establish any sort of rhythm against but on the same note, lacks any rhythm himself.

[6] Tsonga

Tsonga lacks some things you can't really teach IMO. He lacks the intangibles. He's a great athlete, good hands but lacks things like anticipation, shot selection and knowing when to play the percentages . In short, he's not got a great tennis IQ. Think James Blake. I also think he's overrated on the backhand. Like you said his positioning at the net isn't great but he does have natural volleying ability. For me, this guy would be a frustrating coaching assignment because he has all the tangibles but few of the intangibles.
 

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Kieran said:
Luxilon Borg said:
If you could giving coaching advice to the following six players, what would be. Be very specific and technical, not motivational.

1) Grigor D

2) Kei Nishikori

3) Milos Raonic

4) Stan (dat is my name) Wawrinka

5) The Dog

6) JW Tsonga

Grigor, take it early and get in more.

Kei, you're doing great, keep doing more of the same, but you need to listen when I tell you to fetch me another few laps. And listen to the physio.

Milos, you're not a wardrobe. We're gonna concentrate specifically on your movement. Think of fluid. Lots of run and bend stuff, lots of skipping and dancing. Lots more run and duck stuff.

Stan, you're doing great. Change your name to Stanley Wow! and things be brighter. Your first serve sucked in the opening set against Rafa, so don't believe the hype and start forgetting yourself. Fetch me twenty laps, son, then we're gonna start drilling you on movements.

Dolgo, collect the balls, your year is over.

JW, you're French. Therefore, you love drama. Therefore, visit the theatre for that stuff. I'm gonna toughen you up, soldier. Don't you eyeball me, sonny, I beat your pere down and I beat your grand-pere. Get that cigarette outta yar mush. Fetch me a thousand backhands from that corner there into that corner there and if you miss one sonny, why I'll...

Oui, good advices all around!

Yeh, Milos....some ballet lessons might help.

Why so down on the Dog!
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
I will go first:

1) Grigor D:

a) Play closer to the baseline, you do way to much running
to cover balls. This will also give you the opportunity to get in tighter
to the net when approaching

b) Be more efficient. Lots of wasted energy trying to make athletic, one in ten
gets, and too much flailing at shots.

c) Already on the agenda, but physicality has another level to go

2) Nish:

a) Physicality and overall strengthening of vulnerable body parts must be a huge priority.

3) Milos R:

a) Must work on agility. It should be a huge priority.

b) Additional use of serve and voilley

c) Improve slice backhand

4) Stan:

a) Add more subtely. Prefers the club and sledgehammer, and can lead to one dimensional play at times. Variety will only make the power game more devastating.

b) Better shot selection under pressure.

5) The Dog:

a) Add discipline to shot selection, and develop reliable patterns of play, then use improvisational skills to your advantage

b) Add at lest 20% to physicality.

6) JW Tsonga:

a) Discipline and Patience. You cannot hit through every opponent.

b) Down the line backhand must improve

c) Must improve net positioning. Constantly lunging and flailing to react to passing shots.

Excellent post and agree with most it.

[1] Grigor

Agree about Grigor. He needs to move up the court. I maybe in a minority but I still don't think his movement is anywhere near the top bracket. He's not as naturally athletic as any of the "Big 4" and doesn't read the game as well either (anticipation). I'm a fan though and expect him to get better in most departments... but he's not going to be the second coming of Roger Federer. Physically, I think he'll grow into himself, but he needs to work on general fitness, footwork and movement.

[2] Nishikori

I like Nishikori. Great technician. Takes the ball early and clean. He's smart too. Agree that he needs to improve physically but I feel his natural size imposes a ceiling on what he'll achieve. It wouldn't surprise me if this guy actually won a major down the line if all chips fell into place... although right now he's a little fragile physically to put his name in that hat.

[3] Raonic

I don't think Milos is ever going to be a good enough mover to hit the top echelon. For me he is a Joachim Johannson Fringe Top 10. Couple of big weapons. Always dangerous... I'd tend to agree with your assessment - but I'd focus more on working on his strengths more than his weaknesses, other than his return of serve which blatantly needs work. I know Raonic has a little bit of a fanbase on here but I'm not one of them - I don't particularly enjoy watching him.

[4] Stan

I kind of agree, but at Stan's stage of his career, I think he's better concentrating on what he does best. For me, Stan is a confidence player. He's got a game to beat anybody - it's all about execution. On paper, variety might seem an obvious choice, but I think Stan at his best is more of a "Stop me doing what I do best if you can" and if all cylinders are firing and he's playing with confidence then I'd run with that.

[5] Dolgo

Couldn't have said it better. Dolgo has no "go to" game or patterns of play. He's almost predictably unpredictable. Difficult guy to establish any sort of rhythm against but on the same note, lacks any rhythm himself.

[6] Tsonga

Tsonga lacks some things you can't really teach IMO. He lacks the intangibles. He's a great athlete, good hands but lacks things like anticipation, shot selection and knowing when to play the percentages . In short, he's not got a great tennis IQ. Think James Blake. I also think he's overrated on the backhand. Like you said his positioning at the net isn't great but he does have natural volleying ability. For me, this guy would be a frustrating coaching assignment because he has all the tangibles but few of the intangibles.


Excellent reply.

Some notes:

I think Grigor has the potential to be an elite mover, but he will never be as effortless in this regard as the Federer or Joker, or physically as strong as Rafa and Murray. But he can overcome this with court positioning, as noted.

I was actually going to write Nish off a year and a half ago when I saw him at IW. Then this year when I saw him practice with Chang, he had bulked up dramatically. I realized he was taking the physical aspect seriously, but he as you said, may just not be built for the long haul. Great, great ball striker with natural feel and decent killer instinct.

I am not a huge Milos fan, but he does devastate with the forehand and serve. Yes, he absolutely needs to improve the return of serve. There are runners and their are hitters, he is a hitter, so those are the cards he will be dealt. Unfortunately he gets caught in a clap trap because everyone is looking for his back hand, so he camps out in that corner, then if they go down the line with the back hand or cross court with the forehand, he has to haul back to his forehand corner, and he does not have the speed to do this effectively time and time again.

Yes, Stan does what Stan does, but I think he over hits on occasion and it costs him.

Well, you nailed it on Tsonga..frustrating to coach, hence the coaching merry go-round. Good comparison to Blake.
 

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I agree with everything that's been said but I want to add my 2 cents, and it is for every player out there, not just the ones LB selected: Work on your DTL backhand, religiously, because that is the one shot that will open up the court for you to unleash whatever your strength is, against the top guys. You will not beat a top guy without a solid DTH backhand, and the ability to use it to change the pattern of a rally successfully. That is the one shot that will keep the other guy across the net honest. I also think that is one of the most difficult shots in tennis, so you master it, you are ahead of the game.
 

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1972Murat said:
I agree with everything that's been said but I want to add my 2 cents, and it is for every player out there, not just the ones LB selected: Work on your DTL backhand, religiously, because that is the one shot that will open up the court for you to unleash whatever your strength is, against the top guys. You will not beat a top guy without a solid DTH backhand, and the ability to use it to change the pattern of a rally successfully. That is the one shot that will keep the other guy across the net honest. I also think that is one of the most difficult shots in tennis, so you master it, you are ahead of the game.

Its a shot I think is essential. It is a lot easier for two handers for sure.

Ironically, Rafa does not have a go to down the line backhand. He makes up for his with his court positioning, but that entails a helluva lot more running. If he had that shot, it is frightening to think what his record would be,

Nole picked him apart wit the DTL BH last week.
 

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I don't expect to see much more of Dolgo this year.

Good advice on the dtl backhand, by the way, and it's true about how Nole has made Rafa suffer on this shot. If Rafa's backhand is off, he struggles sorely against this shot.

By the way, why no Murray in the list? He's the only one who doesn't have a coach!
 

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Kieran said:
I don't expect to see much more of Dolgo this year.

Good advice on the dtl backhand, by the way, and it's true about how Nole has made Rafa suffer on this shot. If Rafa's backhand is off, he struggles sorely against this shot.

By the way, why no Murray in the list? He's the only one who doesn't have a coach!

Good question. Murray is not on the list because he has broken through and won 2 slams, been in multiple finals, and won Masters 1000s, and has been a staple of the top 5 for a while.

His weaknesses are well known, and quite frankly, i don't see him changing much. His on court demeanor, funky forehand, and lack of net approaches can be managed at best. I think he really feels his strengths..the backhand, the first serve, and of course the movement most of all are enough to compensate for those issues.