Australian Open Day 4: Thursday, Jan 21 - Order of Play
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Women's a little dry today. Shvedova could show Madison K something as she has her moments and I think Madison K. is still getting better.
I needed to look up the country abbreviation for the person Vika is playing against, so let's just say she's pretty unknown:snicker
I needed to look up the country abbreviation for the person Vika is playing against, so let's just say she's pretty unknown:snicker
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golds girl said:
That is putting it mildly. I don't find a single match interesting. Vika might deliver another double bagel.
Shvedova should get rid of Keys the Jamaican...just dont understand why Sloane and Keys dont get along..their families are from the islands..
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Konta won her 2nd round match, maintaining her form from her upset match vs. Williams.
Looking back at her history, I don't see any stats from previous Aussie Opens so these are all free ranking points.
Looking back at her history, I don't see any stats from previous Aussie Opens so these are all free ranking points.
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this is my first time to see her play...she is very good and composed for a young player.She clearly a Serena fan...just from the way she plays....at least she doesnt hate on the sisters like Keys and Sloane.golds girl said:tossip said:
Svitolina in real trouble vs. her unranked opponent. Down a set and break
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I'm baaaaaaaaack.
Which isn't to say that too many of you notice me or that I'm a rockstar around here or that I've been missed. It's really just a hello to all. Y'all know me, I pretty much only come around here during the slams. I promise I do watch a ton of tennis throughout the year besides the slams. But the only time I really care to talk about it is during the slams. But what brought me back to day is actually an order of play discussion. That I'll start with a different post. Just wanted to say hey first.
Which isn't to say that too many of you notice me or that I'm a rockstar around here or that I've been missed. It's really just a hello to all. Y'all know me, I pretty much only come around here during the slams. I promise I do watch a ton of tennis throughout the year besides the slams. But the only time I really care to talk about it is during the slams. But what brought me back to day is actually an order of play discussion. That I'll start with a different post. Just wanted to say hey first.
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So, as to the OoP situation, I'm not mad about it. I don't usually put to much into these things. But every now and again, something catches my eye, I just say... "hmmmm". Like I wonder why that made that decision?
So I'm putting it here because it's about today's OoP. If the mods want to make it a separate thread if lots of people want to chime in, I'm down. But I don't know who's going to care.
So today, they put Muguruza v Flipkens on RLA, with Vika v Kovinic on MCA.
Not a big deal right? It really isn't. But I'm just a curious type.
Now if you look at the OoP they were both, second up on their respective courts. So to me, it's a simple swap. Vika should be on RLA and Muguruza on RLA.
To me, Vika is your 2 time champion. Former world #1. Yes, it's taken her longer than expected to rise to the top again, and technically she's still not there. But, she's a former #1. Like, not a former top 5 or 10. She actually spent like 60 or so weeks at #1. But more importantly to me really IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE is the fact that she's a 2 time champion AT THIS EVENT. If I'm making an OoP and both of these matches need to be played on the same day, the 2 time champion of the event I'm making the OoP for gets the nod over the 1 time finalist at a different slam.
Now, I'm willing to consider that maybe it's entertainment value. They think Muguruza v Flipkens is going to me a better match than Vika v Kovinic. And well, there were more games in the Muguruza match. It was closer for longer. They were right. But.... should entertainment value be he deciding factor. Well.... actually, funny thing is, I often argue that it is. I see some of these early round match ups between guys that are seeded in the 20s and the guys right outside the top 32 and think, that's going to be a better match than Djokovic vs "unknown, lowly ranked guy." Put that on your SHOW court. The court that people paid the most to get onto. The court people paid to see good tennis played on. So, if they are in fact doing that, then maybe that's the end of this discussion. But it certainly looks like they just went with the higher seeded player. But... that falls apart because Vika is ranked higher than Ivanovic who was first on RLA today. Aside from this Muguruza v Flipkens over Vika v Kovinic, Vika definitely should have been on RLA over Ivanovic. Again, 2 time champion, longer time at #1 than Ivanovic, and currently seeded higher than Ivanovic.
So, I know sometimes players feel slighted when they aren't put on the center court and they feel they should be. And when they whine about it, my natural reaction is to tell them to shut up and move on and why on earth do they care. Forget your pride. It's just a court. You need to play a match. That's that. But, here I am, whining for them. Again because I just want to know how they make this decision. I mean, they've got Pliskova v Georges as the last match on RLA tonight. Again, Vika should be there over her. I'm just really perplexed by this.
Now, when it comes to these matches, going back to what I said about people paying more for them, that probably explains why Djokovic v nobody gets on there instead of a #25 vs a #35. Even if #25 v #35 goes 5 sets and is great and Djokovic drops 4 games in 3 sets, many of those top paying people may be there just for the greats. For the Djokovic's, Fed's, and Serena's. But if that's the case, again, Vika has more experience, has 2 wins HERE, and has spent collectively over a year at #1 (I think. Haven't double checked.)
Now, I am a fan of Vika. But I like Muguruza too. I'm every bit as excited about her as a lot of people are. I'm not only bothered by this because it's Vika and I feel like she consistently doesn't get treated well at slams or whatever. I don't feel that way. If anything, I think I understand that she isn't in fact one of the more loved top players on tour. Her exhale noise really bothers a lot of fans and they were never glad when she was playing her best and was at the top of the game. They were waiting for her to fail. And that doesn't really upset me. I get it. I don't feel that way, but again it's not something that just sets me off in jealous rage. I keep reiterating this because I don't want anyone to think this is about me. I'm just genuinely curious about it. Because it seems like its an issue at every slam. Just poor decisions here or there. Again, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Whoever is going to win is going to win. And you can only have so many matches on one court in a day.
There are just some cases where I think it would be good to recognize someone for what they've achieved. Granted Muguruza has achieved a current ranking of #3. That's an accomplishment. She should be recognized. But in a case where you've got another player of higher stature, why aren't they your first choice I guess is what I'm curious about.
Like I said, I'm baaaack. Long posts and all.
So I'm putting it here because it's about today's OoP. If the mods want to make it a separate thread if lots of people want to chime in, I'm down. But I don't know who's going to care.
So today, they put Muguruza v Flipkens on RLA, with Vika v Kovinic on MCA.
Not a big deal right? It really isn't. But I'm just a curious type.
Now if you look at the OoP they were both, second up on their respective courts. So to me, it's a simple swap. Vika should be on RLA and Muguruza on RLA.
To me, Vika is your 2 time champion. Former world #1. Yes, it's taken her longer than expected to rise to the top again, and technically she's still not there. But, she's a former #1. Like, not a former top 5 or 10. She actually spent like 60 or so weeks at #1. But more importantly to me really IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE is the fact that she's a 2 time champion AT THIS EVENT. If I'm making an OoP and both of these matches need to be played on the same day, the 2 time champion of the event I'm making the OoP for gets the nod over the 1 time finalist at a different slam.
Now, I'm willing to consider that maybe it's entertainment value. They think Muguruza v Flipkens is going to me a better match than Vika v Kovinic. And well, there were more games in the Muguruza match. It was closer for longer. They were right. But.... should entertainment value be he deciding factor. Well.... actually, funny thing is, I often argue that it is. I see some of these early round match ups between guys that are seeded in the 20s and the guys right outside the top 32 and think, that's going to be a better match than Djokovic vs "unknown, lowly ranked guy." Put that on your SHOW court. The court that people paid the most to get onto. The court people paid to see good tennis played on. So, if they are in fact doing that, then maybe that's the end of this discussion. But it certainly looks like they just went with the higher seeded player. But... that falls apart because Vika is ranked higher than Ivanovic who was first on RLA today. Aside from this Muguruza v Flipkens over Vika v Kovinic, Vika definitely should have been on RLA over Ivanovic. Again, 2 time champion, longer time at #1 than Ivanovic, and currently seeded higher than Ivanovic.
So, I know sometimes players feel slighted when they aren't put on the center court and they feel they should be. And when they whine about it, my natural reaction is to tell them to shut up and move on and why on earth do they care. Forget your pride. It's just a court. You need to play a match. That's that. But, here I am, whining for them. Again because I just want to know how they make this decision. I mean, they've got Pliskova v Georges as the last match on RLA tonight. Again, Vika should be there over her. I'm just really perplexed by this.
Now, when it comes to these matches, going back to what I said about people paying more for them, that probably explains why Djokovic v nobody gets on there instead of a #25 vs a #35. Even if #25 v #35 goes 5 sets and is great and Djokovic drops 4 games in 3 sets, many of those top paying people may be there just for the greats. For the Djokovic's, Fed's, and Serena's. But if that's the case, again, Vika has more experience, has 2 wins HERE, and has spent collectively over a year at #1 (I think. Haven't double checked.)
Now, I am a fan of Vika. But I like Muguruza too. I'm every bit as excited about her as a lot of people are. I'm not only bothered by this because it's Vika and I feel like she consistently doesn't get treated well at slams or whatever. I don't feel that way. If anything, I think I understand that she isn't in fact one of the more loved top players on tour. Her exhale noise really bothers a lot of fans and they were never glad when she was playing her best and was at the top of the game. They were waiting for her to fail. And that doesn't really upset me. I get it. I don't feel that way, but again it's not something that just sets me off in jealous rage. I keep reiterating this because I don't want anyone to think this is about me. I'm just genuinely curious about it. Because it seems like its an issue at every slam. Just poor decisions here or there. Again, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Whoever is going to win is going to win. And you can only have so many matches on one court in a day.
There are just some cases where I think it would be good to recognize someone for what they've achieved. Granted Muguruza has achieved a current ranking of #3. That's an accomplishment. She should be recognized. But in a case where you've got another player of higher stature, why aren't they your first choice I guess is what I'm curious about.
Like I said, I'm baaaack. Long posts and all.
her antics during her 1st rd match were a bit much...its hard to sit through that with the roof closed...when she was with Sumyk she had matured now she really out of control with negative behavior...
Welcome back. I'll make this short and sweet. Vika played her opening match at night on RLA. Unless your name is Serena or Roger in Melbourne, you're guaranteed to play at least one match on another court. Maria is a former champ and she played her first match on MCA Day 1. Even Djoker is playing matches on MCA and he's won the thing like 5 times.tenisplayrla08 said:
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AUSSIE Watch: After 4 days, only one aussie is left from the nine who started. That is our beloved Daria. I think she has a good draw as well and can reach QF or SF (when she will run into Aga/Serena).
